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What’s objectionable about that? Can you explain that to me. I’m afraid I really don’t understand.

by arrrg 4y ago

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
The theory is the US through ecohealth funded the Wuhan lab in their gain of function research which brought us the virus which causes Wuhan Pneumonia.
- arrrg 4y ago
  That is a hypothesis. I just don’t understand why it should have policy impact since there is no evidence for it. It’s currently just a conspiracy theory.
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
    You asked what. I said what. What I said is why someone might find it objectionable that they're still going.
  - credit_guy 4y ago
    If it were just a conspiracy theory, someone would have gone through the claims in the book "Viral" by Matt Ridley and Alina Chan and debunked its arguments one by one. Matt Ridley is a journalist who wrote numerous books about scientific topics (one about the genome in 1999). Alina Chan is a biologist who works at Harvard and MIT. When people say "trust the science", or "trust the scientists", why should we trust Peter Daszak, with his obvious conflicts of interests, over Alina Chan?
  - wendyshu 4y ago
    Depends on your definition of conspiracy theory I guess, but serious people take it seriously https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1463219980506439691 https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1463219980506439691 There may be no direct positive evidence for it, but that doesn't mean it's all that implausible.
  - phkahler 4y ago
    No, it not "just a conspiracy theory". They were seeking research funding for a proposal to do gain of function research on Corona viruses. Function that would produce something very much like covid19. Whether they ended up doing it is not even relevant IMHO because the proposed result would have essentially been that virus. Lab leaks have happened before and will happen again. People are actively looking to make similar things for "research". It's not that they make Covid. It's that they may as well have and wanted to (sans releasing it hopefully)

What’s objectionable about that? Can you explain that to me. I’m afraid I really don’t understand.

by arrrg 4y ago

What’s objectionable about that? Can you explain that to me. I’m afraid I really don’t understand.

The theory is the US through ecohealth funded the Wuhan lab in their gain of function research which brought us the virus which causes Wuhan Pneumonia.

arrrg 4y ago
That is a hypothesis. I just don’t understand why it should have policy impact since there is no evidence for it. It’s currently just a conspiracy theory.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  You asked what. I said what. What I said is why someone might find it objectionable that they're still going.
- credit_guy 4y ago
  If it were just a conspiracy theory, someone would have gone through the claims in the book "Viral" by Matt Ridley and Alina Chan and debunked its arguments one by one. Matt Ridley is a journalist who wrote numerous books about scientific topics (one about the genome in 1999). Alina Chan is a biologist who works at Harvard and MIT. When people say "trust the science", or "trust the scientists", why should we trust Peter Daszak, with his obvious conflicts of interests, over Alina Chan?
- wendyshu 4y ago
  Depends on your definition of conspiracy theory I guess, but serious people take it seriously https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1463219980506439691 https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1463219980506439691 There may be no direct positive evidence for it, but that doesn't mean it's all that implausible.
- phkahler 4y ago
  No, it not "just a conspiracy theory". They were seeking research funding for a proposal to do gain of function research on Corona viruses. Function that would produce something very much like covid19. Whether they ended up doing it is not even relevant IMHO because the proposed result would have essentially been that virus. Lab leaks have happened before and will happen again. People are actively looking to make similar things for "research". It's not that they make Covid. It's that they may as well have and wanted to (sans releasing it hopefully)