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Yes I agree, almost every car electric or not that you buy now is laden with crap that's only there to benefit the manufacturer and screw the buyer. But it's

Yes I agree, almost every car electric or not that you buy now is laden with crap that's only there to benefit the manufacturer and screw the buyer. But it's clear that electric represents a chance to screw people from the ground up, cutting out things like independent garages and even gas stations, and giving cover to computerize and log everything. Regulation is necessary, but it's going to be whack a mole trying to prevent vendors ripping off customers, and the automotive already basically has regulatory captured their way into preventing competition. In some respects I think there needs to be less, or at least more sensible regulation, to encourage competition that might actually provide options to people (unfortunately I think most people don't value freedom and are happy to give it up for something shiny, it may be a lost cause)

AlexandrB 4y ago
> ... and giving cover to computerize and log everything. I worry that the interests of car companies and government are well-aligned here and any regulation will be in the direction of making logging of everything mandatory for the benefit of law enforcement.
- yazaddaruvala 4y ago
  Either facial recognition or license plate recognition (or logging all data about a car) at scale is roughly a similar problem and should be solved together with a constitutional amendment to the Right to Privacy (or something - I'm not a lawyer). Meanwhile, no need to have the data leave the car "for the benefit of law enforcement". I would love if cars' would be GPS connected, or use "smart roads", and have the car self-regulate the speed limit. We have the technology to get rid of speeding tickets, lets just automate this and lets debate better road policies instead. No need to reduce the number of police officers, just get them to instead work on finding my stolen bike! They can also continue to patrol the roads for unsafe driving, for people who mod their cars to no longer respect the speed limit, etc.

AlexandrB 4y ago

> ... and giving cover to computerize and log everything. I worry that the interests of car companies and government are well-aligned here and any regulation will be in the direction of making logging of everything mandatory for the benefit of law enforcement.

yazaddaruvala 4y ago
Either facial recognition or license plate recognition (or logging all data about a car) at scale is roughly a similar problem and should be solved together with a constitutional amendment to the Right to Privacy (or something - I'm not a lawyer). Meanwhile, no need to have the data leave the car "for the benefit of law enforcement". I would love if cars' would be GPS connected, or use "smart roads", and have the car self-regulate the speed limit. We have the technology to get rid of speeding tickets, lets just automate this and lets debate better road policies instead. No need to reduce the number of police officers, just get them to instead work on finding my stolen bike! They can also continue to patrol the roads for unsafe driving, for people who mod their cars to no longer respect the speed limit, etc.