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You can, you just can't do billing on SuperChargers. Home charging works... cars work, but it's like credit cards didn't work at the gas station and there was n

by kurthr 4y ago

You can, you just can't do billing on SuperChargers. Home charging works... cars work, but it's like credit cards didn't work at the gas station and there was nobody there to take cash.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago
Typically if a gas station isn't accepting payment, I can drive to the one next door. I've done that before, but it's very rare unless if Visa or Mastercard is having issues (which is pretty rare, but affects much more than just gas).
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > Typically if a gas station isn't accepting payment, I can drive to the one next door. You can do the same in Europe with EVs. Europe standardised on CCS Type 2 Combo for EV charging so you're not locked into one charging network. All brands of DC fast charger can charge all brands of EV, exactly as it should be.
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    That's some wild theory. In my experience as an BEV owner (Skoda Enyaq iv80) it is highly selective and having same plug means nothing if there are incompatible software stacks inside. Some chargers are working fine. Ionity, BP (ironic) Some will not initiate charging because registration email/login/payment in their app does not work. (Freshmile in France, some Swedish one in Greece whose name I forget did not sent an activation email) Some chargers just straight out doesn't like your car, because reasons. "Find another charger" you will be told. (Fortiza) Some chargers are just broken, but you can't tell until you arrive. (Another Freshmile in France)
    - clouddrover 4y ago
      > Some chargers are working fine. Yes, there are better and worse ones. Spend your money at the better ones. > BP (ironic) Why is BP ironic? They're in the energy business. So is Shell.
pcdevils 4y ago
In the old days when the card machine went down they'd pull out the manual machine that used carbon paper to pick up the embossed numbers on the card and you signed for it. Of course there were lots of cases of fraud linked to those too.
- dmonitor 4y ago
  They still do that where I live. Happens very rarely
  - ars 4y ago
    They really do? My new credit card is no longer embossed - I assumed that this no longer existed anywhere.
    - Danny_Dan4 4y ago
      Yup! My semi-local Micro Center did exactly this back when there was a major internet outage in their area; it was a mess, but incredibly neat!

by kurthr 4y ago

You can, you just can't do billing on SuperChargers. Home charging works... cars work, but it's like credit cards didn't work at the gas station and there was nobody there to take cash.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

Typically if a gas station isn't accepting payment, I can drive to the one next door. I've done that before, but it's very rare unless if Visa or Mastercard is having issues (which is pretty rare, but affects much more than just gas).

clouddrover 4y ago
> Typically if a gas station isn't accepting payment, I can drive to the one next door. You can do the same in Europe with EVs. Europe standardised on CCS Type 2 Combo for EV charging so you're not locked into one charging network. All brands of DC fast charger can charge all brands of EV, exactly as it should be.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  That's some wild theory. In my experience as an BEV owner (Skoda Enyaq iv80) it is highly selective and having same plug means nothing if there are incompatible software stacks inside. Some chargers are working fine. Ionity, BP (ironic) Some will not initiate charging because registration email/login/payment in their app does not work. (Freshmile in France, some Swedish one in Greece whose name I forget did not sent an activation email) Some chargers just straight out doesn't like your car, because reasons. "Find another charger" you will be told. (Fortiza) Some chargers are just broken, but you can't tell until you arrive. (Another Freshmile in France)
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    > Some chargers are working fine. Yes, there are better and worse ones. Spend your money at the better ones. > BP (ironic) Why is BP ironic? They're in the energy business. So is Shell.

pcdevils 4y ago

In the old days when the card machine went down they'd pull out the manual machine that used carbon paper to pick up the embossed numbers on the card and you signed for it. Of course there were lots of cases of fraud linked to those too.

dmonitor 4y ago
They still do that where I live. Happens very rarely
- ars 4y ago
  They really do? My new credit card is no longer embossed - I assumed that this no longer existed anywhere.
  - Danny_Dan4 4y ago
    Yup! My semi-local Micro Center did exactly this back when there was a major internet outage in their area; it was a mess, but incredibly neat!