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Thank you for the polite insults. I hope you feel good after this wonderful display towards a stranger online. The education you provided is invaluable. Your mo

by zmxz 4y ago

Thank you for the polite insults. I hope you feel good after this wonderful display towards a stranger online. The education you provided is invaluable. Your moral compass is high and you defeated me and defended an entire generation of people. I think this is the first of its kind in the history of internet, you must feel like a hero :) Sadly, you didn't read what I wrote but I'm still grateful for being called an idiot, and since I value your opinion I am gravely hurt.

andrewmcwatters 4y ago
Why reply? I called out your comment because it too is rude. You think you're making a statement about character and moral building, but then you slip in some archaic statements about work ethic and job tenure and seem to expect that the false dichotomy you're building is universally applicable to all distributions of laborers. It's the weird regurgitation of concepts that managers and leaders say in order to prey on people.
- zmxz 4y ago
  Have you heard of strawman argument? Look it up. You're worked up and are taking it out on me because you created the narrative in which it appears I'm sending some kind of subliminal messages about corporate loyalty. You've been told multiple times it's not the case but you refused to accept it. The same way you can imagine you're a billionaire and refuse to accept the reality of that you aren't. The story you made up has nothing to do with mine, but you refuse to read so that's where our multiplayer monologue ends.
Firmwarrior 4y ago
The good guy in your story got INCREDIBLY F*** on money. There's no way he was making anywhere near the market rate for most of his career. Your advice is dangerously misleading. Like the other guy said, it's an attitude that allows sociopathic managers to exploit honest people.
- zmxz 4y ago
  There was no advice. There was no mention on compensation. There was no mention of the revenue model of the 1st person. You came up with a narrative and argued with me based on story and arguments you made up. It's just silly and not remotely professional, especially coming from a grown up person. Here's the story of the first dev: his compensation model depends directly on how much his employer (partner) helps their customers achieve higher revenue. Their software is related to subset of financial industry. You are right, he didn't make near the market rate for most of his career. He made so much he never has to work any more. But he still works because it's what he finds fulfilling. Your attitude is dangerously misleading. You assumed too much in order to paint someone sociopath. It'd be a lie if I said "I wonder what prompted you to behave like this", except I can tell you recognized yourself in the story I wrote and felt the need to discredit the narrator. Think about it, it's for your sake.
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    You posted a super long, rambling parable that strongly implied a noble, dedicated, hardworking person was rewarded for his diligence. Then you launched into a bunch of snide personal attacks against anyone who disagreed I think the reason you're pissing people off is because we were all like the hero of your little story. Except instead of being rewarded handsomely, we all got fucking screwed over by faceless megacorps' middle management. Now it pisses us off when we see people spewing misleading bullshit.

by zmxz 4y ago

andrewmcwatters 4y ago

Why reply? I called out your comment because it too is rude. You think you're making a statement about character and moral building, but then you slip in some archaic statements about work ethic and job tenure and seem to expect that the false dichotomy you're building is universally applicable to all distributions of laborers. It's the weird regurgitation of concepts that managers and leaders say in order to prey on people.

zmxz 4y ago
Have you heard of strawman argument? Look it up. You're worked up and are taking it out on me because you created the narrative in which it appears I'm sending some kind of subliminal messages about corporate loyalty. You've been told multiple times it's not the case but you refused to accept it. The same way you can imagine you're a billionaire and refuse to accept the reality of that you aren't. The story you made up has nothing to do with mine, but you refuse to read so that's where our multiplayer monologue ends.

Firmwarrior 4y ago

The good guy in your story got INCREDIBLY F*** on money. There's no way he was making anywhere near the market rate for most of his career. Your advice is dangerously misleading. Like the other guy said, it's an attitude that allows sociopathic managers to exploit honest people.

zmxz 4y ago
There was no advice. There was no mention on compensation. There was no mention of the revenue model of the 1st person. You came up with a narrative and argued with me based on story and arguments you made up. It's just silly and not remotely professional, especially coming from a grown up person. Here's the story of the first dev: his compensation model depends directly on how much his employer (partner) helps their customers achieve higher revenue. Their software is related to subset of financial industry. You are right, he didn't make near the market rate for most of his career. He made so much he never has to work any more. But he still works because it's what he finds fulfilling. Your attitude is dangerously misleading. You assumed too much in order to paint someone sociopath. It'd be a lie if I said "I wonder what prompted you to behave like this", except I can tell you recognized yourself in the story I wrote and felt the need to discredit the narrator. Think about it, it's for your sake.
- Firmwarrior 4y ago
  You posted a super long, rambling parable that strongly implied a noble, dedicated, hardworking person was rewarded for his diligence. Then you launched into a bunch of snide personal attacks against anyone who disagreed I think the reason you're pissing people off is because we were all like the hero of your little story. Except instead of being rewarded handsomely, we all got fucking screwed over by faceless megacorps' middle management. Now it pisses us off when we see people spewing misleading bullshit.