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I started using Linux around 2002. I evaluated and quickly dismissed it as a desktop OS largely because it didn't allow me to play the games I wanted to play. I

I started using Linux around 2002. I evaluated and quickly dismissed it as a desktop OS largely because it didn't allow me to play the games I wanted to play. In 2021 or 2022 I finally switched, thanks entirely to Steam on Linux (more specifically, thanks to the Proton/WINE integration). I haven't looked back. I'm on Arch, if anyone is curious.

zmk5 4y ago
Not sure if you are mentioning Arch because of the meme or not, but it is funny how Arch users do love mentioning the fact they use Arch lol
- candiddevmike 4y ago
  Would be curious to know if parent chose Arch because Valve chose it for the Steam Deck.
  - kunwon1 4y ago
    Actually, I chose LFS. I was building out a systemd-based LFS system, and I had fucked up on GPT vs MBR or something like that, so I binned it. That was like ten hours down the drain, and I felt discouraged, so I didn't retry LFS. I wanted to avoid the monolithic desktop environments and build one out of individual components that I would then customize to my liking. I had some experience with two 'highly customizable' distributions: Gentoo and Arch. I picked the one that was less likely to get me made fun of /s It has worked out pretty well. My desktop has some quirks and I want to re-do it, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Current desktop works and is 'good enough' Another consideration was the Arch wiki. There are few better resources for getting Linux desktop software to work the way you want it, IMO
    - candiddevmike 4y ago
      Reasons I _want_ to use Arch: - Almost always up to date software - Little to no patching/changing upstream - Follows upstream defaults/best practices Reasons I shy away from Arch: - Too much churn on keeping things up to date - Package maintainers are hit or miss, don't seem as engaged as Debian I'd like to use Arch on my servers and devices, but it seems like it requires more responsibility than using Debian vs the benefit of using.
      - kaba0 4y ago
        I found Nix to be a great mix of always up-to-date and stable/always a single command away from rolling back. But there is a learning curve.
      - seba_dos1 4y ago
        IMO using Arch on servers is pointless. It's good for devices you use daily and can take care of regularly - updates are mostly painless then, but once you stop you're simply asking for a lot of additional maintenance burden when you get back to it.
  - seba_dos1 4y ago
    Valve chose SteamOS for the Steam Deck. It is (currently) based on a snapshot of Arch, but deviates so much that it's a huge stretch to still call it Arch. You could just as well say that a device runs Debian when it actually runs Ubuntu.
- number6 4y ago
  I can't add much to the conversation other that I also do use Archlinux
tapoxi 4y ago
I started around the same time (Debian Woody), it's certainly come a long way from SuperTux and Battle for Wesnoth. Windows is still on my gaming PC, mostly due to anticheat issues with games like Hunt, Destiny, and Battlefield. I'm finally able to play games like Crusader Kings 3 on my Linux laptop without any issues though.
tommiegannert 4y ago
I also want to pay my gratitude to Valve. My primary computer has been Linux for 20 years, but I've always had a Windows gaming computer. I made the switch to all-Linux last week. Much thanks to Steam and OnShape (mechanical CAD in a web browser.)
Scion9066 4y ago
While I've been using Linux/FreeBSD on servers for years, I stuck with Windows for desktop/gaming use. Last year I finally switched though to a combination of Fedora for gaming and ChromeOS for everyday use. There's a few games that I've run into that don't work but most of the ones I want to play do. It's not quite to the level of just working out of the box but the experience is much better than the last time that I had tried it, and enough to fully switch.

zmk5 4y ago

Not sure if you are mentioning Arch because of the meme or not, but it is funny how Arch users do love mentioning the fact they use Arch lol

candiddevmike 4y ago
Would be curious to know if parent chose Arch because Valve chose it for the Steam Deck.
- kunwon1 4y ago
  Actually, I chose LFS. I was building out a systemd-based LFS system, and I had fucked up on GPT vs MBR or something like that, so I binned it. That was like ten hours down the drain, and I felt discouraged, so I didn't retry LFS. I wanted to avoid the monolithic desktop environments and build one out of individual components that I would then customize to my liking. I had some experience with two 'highly customizable' distributions: Gentoo and Arch. I picked the one that was less likely to get me made fun of /s It has worked out pretty well. My desktop has some quirks and I want to re-do it, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Current desktop works and is 'good enough' Another consideration was the Arch wiki. There are few better resources for getting Linux desktop software to work the way you want it, IMO
  - candiddevmike 4y ago
    Reasons I _want_ to use Arch: - Almost always up to date software - Little to no patching/changing upstream - Follows upstream defaults/best practices Reasons I shy away from Arch: - Too much churn on keeping things up to date - Package maintainers are hit or miss, don't seem as engaged as Debian I'd like to use Arch on my servers and devices, but it seems like it requires more responsibility than using Debian vs the benefit of using.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      I found Nix to be a great mix of always up-to-date and stable/always a single command away from rolling back. But there is a learning curve.
    - seba_dos1 4y ago
      IMO using Arch on servers is pointless. It's good for devices you use daily and can take care of regularly - updates are mostly painless then, but once you stop you're simply asking for a lot of additional maintenance burden when you get back to it.
- seba_dos1 4y ago
  Valve chose SteamOS for the Steam Deck. It is (currently) based on a snapshot of Arch, but deviates so much that it's a huge stretch to still call it Arch. You could just as well say that a device runs Debian when it actually runs Ubuntu.
number6 4y ago
I can't add much to the conversation other that I also do use Archlinux

tapoxi 4y ago

I started around the same time (Debian Woody), it's certainly come a long way from SuperTux and Battle for Wesnoth. Windows is still on my gaming PC, mostly due to anticheat issues with games like Hunt, Destiny, and Battlefield. I'm finally able to play games like Crusader Kings 3 on my Linux laptop without any issues though.

tommiegannert 4y ago

I also want to pay my gratitude to Valve. My primary computer has been Linux for 20 years, but I've always had a Windows gaming computer. I made the switch to all-Linux last week. Much thanks to Steam and OnShape (mechanical CAD in a web browser.)

Scion9066 4y ago

While I've been using Linux/FreeBSD on servers for years, I stuck with Windows for desktop/gaming use. Last year I finally switched though to a combination of Fedora for gaming and ChromeOS for everyday use. There's a few games that I've run into that don't work but most of the ones I want to play do. It's not quite to the level of just working out of the box but the experience is much better than the last time that I had tried it, and enough to fully switch.