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Are you saying there was no possible way to get railroad safety through?

by junofan 4y ago

knewter 4y ago
But it was the Republicans' fault
- katbyte 4y ago
  well it seems Dems put the rule in place, Republicans removed it, and then the Dems didn't act fast enough to re-instate it. if i where to point at who has the most fault it here would be the Republicans.
  - CyberDildonics 4y ago
    If someone puts up a tent and someone else purposely burns it down, is the first person partially at fault for not rebuilding it when everyone gets rained on?
    - katbyte 4y ago
      no? its the 2nd person for burning it down. full stop.
e40 4y ago
I'm saying the situation Biden has been in since he took office is very tenuous. There was a virtual tie on paper, with the VP breaking the tie, but 2 of the people on the Dem side were not at all cooperative with the agenda that Biden wanted. To say "the Dems could have done it if they wanted it" is not at all true.
- pseudo0 4y ago
  Both parties primarily serve the interests of the 0.1%, hence the reduction in safety protections under Trump and the imposition of an unfair contract and the removal of the right to strike under Biden. Got to squeeze out every last fraction of a percent of profit to keep Berkshire Hathaway's stock price up.
- btilly 4y ago
  Normally I'd agree with you, but not on this. The Democrats had the option of doing nothing. The railroad workers would have had a strike for a variety of their issues (safety being high on the list), and the workers would have gotten a better deal than the one they got. Unfortunately the strike would have to have lasted long enough and been painful enough for the train companies to accept that they had to negotiate with workers rather than trying to bargain with Congress. That's fundamentally why Congress caved - because THEY would be blamed for the economic disruption. But that doesn't change the fact that simply doing nothing would have been a better outcome for workers.
  - deleted 4y ago
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Are you saying there was no possible way to get railroad safety through?

knewter 4y ago

But it was the Republicans' fault

katbyte 4y ago
well it seems Dems put the rule in place, Republicans removed it, and then the Dems didn't act fast enough to re-instate it. if i where to point at who has the most fault it here would be the Republicans.
- CyberDildonics 4y ago
  If someone puts up a tent and someone else purposely burns it down, is the first person partially at fault for not rebuilding it when everyone gets rained on?
  - katbyte 4y ago
    no? its the 2nd person for burning it down. full stop.

e40 4y ago

I'm saying the situation Biden has been in since he took office is very tenuous. There was a virtual tie on paper, with the VP breaking the tie, but 2 of the people on the Dem side were not at all cooperative with the agenda that Biden wanted. To say "the Dems could have done it if they wanted it" is not at all true.

pseudo0 4y ago
Both parties primarily serve the interests of the 0.1%, hence the reduction in safety protections under Trump and the imposition of an unfair contract and the removal of the right to strike under Biden. Got to squeeze out every last fraction of a percent of profit to keep Berkshire Hathaway's stock price up.
btilly 4y ago
Normally I'd agree with you, but not on this. The Democrats had the option of doing nothing. The railroad workers would have had a strike for a variety of their issues (safety being high on the list), and the workers would have gotten a better deal than the one they got. Unfortunately the strike would have to have lasted long enough and been painful enough for the train companies to accept that they had to negotiate with workers rather than trying to bargain with Congress. That's fundamentally why Congress caved - because THEY would be blamed for the economic disruption. But that doesn't change the fact that simply doing nothing would have been a better outcome for workers.
- deleted 4y ago
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