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He's running 20 year old software on today's hardware, of course it's going to be fast. The idea that software is slower now is nonsense, if anything it's fast

by s17n 4y ago

He's running 20 year old software on today's hardware, of course it's going to be fast. The idea that software is slower now is nonsense, if anything it's faster in general. It's using orders of magnitude more hardware, of course, but how is that a problem?

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
Because it isn't providing orders of magnitude more utility in exchange. Compare what the latest greatest word processor does vs the equivalent from the 90s to what a computer game today does vs the equivelent from the 90s. The latter is what orders of magnitude of improvement looks like.
- pixl97 4y ago
  See this is a particular problem.... You don't use 100% of the features of your software, hell, you might not even use 50% of the features. The problem here is one of measuring YOUR net utility of the gross utility realized by all users. Now, in an ideal world you could get an 'idiot' version that would meet all your needs and run nothing extra and be nice and fast. Of course now you have countless different versions of software to release and test and hope nothing fun happens. Or, you do like everyone does and releases a big old binary of fun that does everything and give QA a few less things to do. I won't say about word process, but spreadsheets?, well not many years ago many of them would stop working at 65k rows and say tough luck, and these days we have absolutely huge datasets running in them.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
    > Now, in an ideal world you could get an 'idiot' version that would meet all your needs and run nothing extra and be nice and fast If I'm not using it, why is it slowing the application down? I don't buy this reasoning. Binaries are not big in modern terms and they don't go slower for including code that never runs.
    - pixl97 4y ago
      If by never runs, you mean things like automatic grammar and spell checking, which way back when were things you'd click a menu to run, and now are constantly running reassessing your lifes worth every time you click a new key. There tend to be any number of 'small' things like this that add up over time and suddenly we're running slow. It also doesn't help many applications followed the Apple school of thought and remove any configuration options so you're unable to disable much of this. This is ignoring the plethora of bad decisions in the past we're paying for now. Your word processor is likely running in a virtualized environment in your operating system because 30 years ago running full blowin programming applications with no security in your document was a good idea. Then you'll have another layer or two of anti-virus on top of it.
      - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
        Dude, I can run the entirety of Windows 95 in a VM (itself running in a browser) and Word from that era on top of it and it is still orders of magnitude faster than Word today. So > Your word processor is likely running in a virtualized environment in your operating system Is also not a good reason. This is what we're saying! None of the "good" reasons given for why software is slow today stand up under scrutiny!

by s17n 4y ago

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago

Because it isn't providing orders of magnitude more utility in exchange. Compare what the latest greatest word processor does vs the equivalent from the 90s to what a computer game today does vs the equivelent from the 90s. The latter is what orders of magnitude of improvement looks like.

pixl97 4y ago
See this is a particular problem.... You don't use 100% of the features of your software, hell, you might not even use 50% of the features. The problem here is one of measuring YOUR net utility of the gross utility realized by all users. Now, in an ideal world you could get an 'idiot' version that would meet all your needs and run nothing extra and be nice and fast. Of course now you have countless different versions of software to release and test and hope nothing fun happens. Or, you do like everyone does and releases a big old binary of fun that does everything and give QA a few less things to do. I won't say about word process, but spreadsheets?, well not many years ago many of them would stop working at 65k rows and say tough luck, and these days we have absolutely huge datasets running in them.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  > Now, in an ideal world you could get an 'idiot' version that would meet all your needs and run nothing extra and be nice and fast If I'm not using it, why is it slowing the application down? I don't buy this reasoning. Binaries are not big in modern terms and they don't go slower for including code that never runs.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    If by never runs, you mean things like automatic grammar and spell checking, which way back when were things you'd click a menu to run, and now are constantly running reassessing your lifes worth every time you click a new key. There tend to be any number of 'small' things like this that add up over time and suddenly we're running slow. It also doesn't help many applications followed the Apple school of thought and remove any configuration options so you're unable to disable much of this. This is ignoring the plethora of bad decisions in the past we're paying for now. Your word processor is likely running in a virtualized environment in your operating system because 30 years ago running full blowin programming applications with no security in your document was a good idea. Then you'll have another layer or two of anti-virus on top of it.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
      Dude, I can run the entirety of Windows 95 in a VM (itself running in a browser) and Word from that era on top of it and it is still orders of magnitude faster than Word today. So > Your word processor is likely running in a virtualized environment in your operating system Is also not a good reason. This is what we're saying! None of the "good" reasons given for why software is slow today stand up under scrutiny!