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Well open source developers seem allergic to making profit and Microsoft is a for profit business, so I don’t think it’s a big surprises which market they are t

by lovich 4y ago

Well open source developers seem allergic to making profit and Microsoft is a for profit business, so I don’t think it’s a big surprises which market they are targeting.

ipaddr 4y ago
Most developers work with open source languages / products. The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year. I remember when many paid thousands for msdn subscriptions.
- strbean 4y ago
  I think most open source developers who would boycott Microsoft products because of their (abusive?) approach to training Copilot were probably already boycotting Microsoft products. Not much point chasing a market with a lifelong grudge against you.
- louthy 4y ago
  > The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year Presumably because they're all open source now? C# is still in the top 5 according to TIOBE [4] (whether we pay any attention to that is shrug), but they reckon it's grown in usage in the past year. Typescript is probably one of the fastest growing languages (in terms of usage). [C#] https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang [F#] https://fsharp.org/ https://fsharp.org/ [Typescript] https://www.typescriptlang.org/ https://www.typescriptlang.org/ [4] https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
FridgeSeal 4y ago
I am not sure I follow your argument here. Parent comment said most devs use open source technologies. That is, when given the option, most devs will choose open source technologies where possible. As such, offering licensed, closed-source products to devs is a bit of a waste. People want to pay for hosted/managed versions of open source products they’re already using, not extra for licences. This is one area I’d say AWS has the advantage.

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Well open source developers seem allergic to making profit and Microsoft is a for profit business, so I don’t think it’s a big surprises which market they are t

by lovich 4y ago

Well open source developers seem allergic to making profit and Microsoft is a for profit business, so I don’t think it’s a big surprises which market they are targeting.

ipaddr 4y ago
Most developers work with open source languages / products. The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year. I remember when many paid thousands for msdn subscriptions.
- strbean 4y ago
  I think most open source developers who would boycott Microsoft products because of their (abusive?) approach to training Copilot were probably already boycotting Microsoft products. Not much point chasing a market with a lifelong grudge against you.
- louthy 4y ago
  > The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year Presumably because they're all open source now? C# is still in the top 5 according to TIOBE [4] (whether we pay any attention to that is shrug), but they reckon it's grown in usage in the past year. Typescript is probably one of the fastest growing languages (in terms of usage). [C#] https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang [F#] https://fsharp.org/ https://fsharp.org/ [Typescript] https://www.typescriptlang.org/ https://www.typescriptlang.org/ [4] https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
FridgeSeal 4y ago
I am not sure I follow your argument here. Parent comment said most devs use open source technologies. That is, when given the option, most devs will choose open source technologies where possible. As such, offering licensed, closed-source products to devs is a bit of a waste. People want to pay for hosted/managed versions of open source products they’re already using, not extra for licences. This is one area I’d say AWS has the advantage.