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I still don't understand why people think that the level of information that the public is aware of is somehow the exact same as the USG has. Not to mention, kn

I still don't understand why people think that the level of information that the public is aware of is somehow the exact same as the USG has. Not to mention, knowledge of what truly when on is heavily compartmentalized within the USG and IC as a whole. Whatever narrative the people are being told is the same narrative that our adversaries are being fed, so a fine line needs to be tread between putting the public at ease and giving away information about our capabilities. This obviously does leave room for speculation and thus conspiracy theorists, but what justification do conspiracy theorists need anyway? The crux of most conspiracy theories is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

vkou 4y ago
> so a fine line needs to be tread between putting the public at ease Also, there's no reason to assume that the goal of revealing all this information is to put the public at ease. Maybe the goal is to drum up public support for war, or at least, some adventure in brinksmanship. Or to make the administration look more hawkish than it is. Or there's some weird funding/ego/prestige power struggle between departments and generals. Or someone is playing a public game of cover-your-ass. Or is making his enemies in the organization look bad, by airing the dirty laundry. Figuring out which is which when it comes to the military leaking secret information is an exercise in Kremlinology.
sys32768 4y ago
Speaking of conspiracy theorists and conspiracies, Edward Snowden thinks these shoot downs are an engineered distraction to stop the public from believing the story that America blew up the Nordstream Pipelines: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1625241477642088454 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1625241477642088454
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- reducesuffering 4y ago
  Snowden can pound sand for repeatedly regurgitating Kremlin propaganda that they weren't going to invade Ukraine, that it was all US government scaremongering. https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1493641714363478016 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1493641714363478016 He doesn't know shit when it comes to this topic.
  - naasking 4y ago
    He doesn't know shit because he was wrong on one prediction? The political talking heads have been repeatedly wrong on many things, and even outright deceptive, and yet they're still plastered all over the media. I think Snowden's track record is better frankly, and the OP's explanation is very plausible.

vkou 4y ago

> so a fine line needs to be tread between putting the public at ease Also, there's no reason to assume that the goal of revealing all this information is to put the public at ease. Maybe the goal is to drum up public support for war, or at least, some adventure in brinksmanship. Or to make the administration look more hawkish than it is. Or there's some weird funding/ego/prestige power struggle between departments and generals. Or someone is playing a public game of cover-your-ass. Or is making his enemies in the organization look bad, by airing the dirty laundry. Figuring out which is which when it comes to the military leaking secret information is an exercise in Kremlinology.

sys32768 4y ago

Speaking of conspiracy theorists and conspiracies, Edward Snowden thinks these shoot downs are an engineered distraction to stop the public from believing the story that America blew up the Nordstream Pipelines: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1625241477642088454 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1625241477642088454

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reducesuffering 4y ago
Snowden can pound sand for repeatedly regurgitating Kremlin propaganda that they weren't going to invade Ukraine, that it was all US government scaremongering. https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1493641714363478016 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1493641714363478016 He doesn't know shit when it comes to this topic.
- naasking 4y ago
  He doesn't know shit because he was wrong on one prediction? The political talking heads have been repeatedly wrong on many things, and even outright deceptive, and yet they're still plastered all over the media. I think Snowden's track record is better frankly, and the OP's explanation is very plausible.