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That's moving the goalposts. In a world with 'existential threat' (your words, not mine) weapons, making war inconvenient and take longer isn't enough, because

That's moving the goalposts. In a world with 'existential threat' (your words, not mine) weapons, making war inconvenient and take longer isn't enough, because one war ends everything. Sanctions and politics has to stop every war with 100% efficacy because the weapons in question cannot be matched. The fact that an invasion happened at all proves you wrong.

yunwal 4y ago
Severe sanctions should be applied to any country or individual attempting to develop autonomous weapons. Additionally, the "Mark of Death" should be applied to any technologist working on autonomous weapons. They should be outcast from society, given no support. Hardware manufacturers should not work with them, cloud computing companies shouldn't work with them. All it takes is for us as a profession to decide we don't want to destroy the world. Yes, there will be some people who try, but they won't be able to achieve this without the support of hundreds of thousands of people. People in the tech community like to pretend like this is impossible, but very few people want to be social and professional outcasts. We have yet to see a lab-designed virus kill off humanity, despite it being theoretically possible to create.
- YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
  And now you're just repeating yourself. All those measures were put in place against North Korea and they failed. They got nukes anyway. If anything, all your proposed solution will do is guarantee that the first group to get hold of this technology is largely comprised of violent sociopaths, and we won't have any means of stopping them.
  - yunwal 4y ago
    I don't buy that North Korea would have nuclear weapons right now if the US and Germany didn't develop them first and lose international goodwill in the process. Also, while NK having nukes is scary, their nuclear/ballistics capabilities are still not at existential threat level, even by their own exaggerated claims.
    - YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
      It doesn't matter whether it's nukes or Colonel Sanders' secret recipe, the fact of the matter is they tried exactly what you're proposing and it didn't work.
      - yunwal 4y ago
        Interesting, I thought I said we shouldn’t build weapons in the first place but I guess you know better!

yunwal 4y ago

Severe sanctions should be applied to any country or individual attempting to develop autonomous weapons. Additionally, the "Mark of Death" should be applied to any technologist working on autonomous weapons. They should be outcast from society, given no support. Hardware manufacturers should not work with them, cloud computing companies shouldn't work with them. All it takes is for us as a profession to decide we don't want to destroy the world. Yes, there will be some people who try, but they won't be able to achieve this without the support of hundreds of thousands of people. People in the tech community like to pretend like this is impossible, but very few people want to be social and professional outcasts. We have yet to see a lab-designed virus kill off humanity, despite it being theoretically possible to create.

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
And now you're just repeating yourself. All those measures were put in place against North Korea and they failed. They got nukes anyway. If anything, all your proposed solution will do is guarantee that the first group to get hold of this technology is largely comprised of violent sociopaths, and we won't have any means of stopping them.
- yunwal 4y ago
  I don't buy that North Korea would have nuclear weapons right now if the US and Germany didn't develop them first and lose international goodwill in the process. Also, while NK having nukes is scary, their nuclear/ballistics capabilities are still not at existential threat level, even by their own exaggerated claims.
  - YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
    It doesn't matter whether it's nukes or Colonel Sanders' secret recipe, the fact of the matter is they tried exactly what you're proposing and it didn't work.
    - yunwal 4y ago
      Interesting, I thought I said we shouldn’t build weapons in the first place but I guess you know better!