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I like Joe Rogan, but I don't like the UX that Spotify offers, which is why I've never managed to move over to Spotify for music or for podcasts. Joe Rogan's ni

I like Joe Rogan, but I don't like the UX that Spotify offers, which is why I've never managed to move over to Spotify for music or for podcasts. Joe Rogan's nice just resulted in me watching him MUCH less, I think I watched two maybe three podcasts since he moved there. I think that YouTube is just that much better for video and obviously that more familiar to me. As for music, I mostly listen to it either locally or on YouTube Music (which can lead to me taking music, that I like, locally). Don't get me wrong I tried to switch to Spotify many times but it never stick. I still remember trying for multiple hours to open my friends most played of the year playlist without success, I still don't know what I was doing wrong, I even tried creating a new account, but it didn't work, while other friends could listen to that playlist without problems, to me it didn't even show. As for video the controls felt a bit of and selecting the size of the video was a bit strange too. Thus I remain on YouTube. I do, from time to time go and check if Joe Rogan had any interesting guests, but the bat for me to watch it is much higher then it was on YouTube, where I watched a lot of Joe Rogan, I'd say at least one episode per week! But hey, we still get clips on YouTube, so that's something ^^

DoesntMatter22 4y ago
Same here. There was a Spotify dev on twitter who was saying that Spotify only hires the best and that's why they are so successful. Very arrogant. But like okay, if you are so great why can I only watch at 1x playback speed for video? I'm just not willing to watch at that rate. The other thing was clips of Rogan on YouTube showed me if I wanted to watch the full thing. Spotify doesn't really offer that in the same way at least. It's a big downgrade from YT over some UX and features that aren't that hard to create
- whbrown 4y ago
  > But like okay, if you are so great why can I only watch at 1x playback speed for video? Maybe they updated this recently since you last tried, but you can most certainly change the playback speed for podcast videos (0.5x–3.5x). I just did it. Of course, the UX could definitely be improved in other ways, such as providing a more organized & easily filterable feed rather than a somewhat random assortment of 'Your shows' and 'Episodes for you'.
  - saurik 4y ago
    Maybe you are on mobile and the parent commenter is not? https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Mac/Adjust-video-speed-1-5x-2x-etc/td-p/5028916 https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Mac/Adjust-video-sp...
    - davisoneee 4y ago
      That is a 2-3 year old link. It's not valid. Speed adjustment is available for video podcasts on spotify desktop. I just tried it directly on a rogan podcast, and can use it on both linux and windows desktop.
      - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
        It doesn't support it in the web player which is how I use it. I hate downloading apps on the desktop.
  - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
    They must have updated it recently because the Convo I had with him was a few months back. He just went on and on about how no one wants the feature etc. Glad they have it now.
  - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
    Actually I double checked this. The web player (which is how I use Spotify) STILL does not support more than 1x video playback. So I guess my original point still holds true. Spotify with all their "genius" engineers still don't have the basic functionality you would expect.
Humbly8967 4y ago
I have also only seen a couple JRE episodes since the Spotify takeover, but the UI is not my problem. My problem is Spotify trying to seize control of an open ecosystem.
- permo-w 4y ago
  I believe they said UX. to me, Spotify has always been an example of good UI, but not so for its UX Spotify used to have this great thing where if you long-pressed a song, it’d play ~15s from the main hook. it was amazing for quickly getting the sense of a playlist or recognising a song, but they removed it because not enough people used it. and there’s the big one everyone talks about: Radio. Spotify radio used to be fantastic. in goes a song and out comes exciting new songs, with a few you know sprinkled in. for a lot of people I know, this was why they chose spotify over anything else then at some point the metrics will have shown that - shock! - people prefer songs they already know??? so now radio crams in as many songs you know as the genre will allow of course the numbers show that people like what they’re already familiar with! but that’s not the point of a fucking radio
Zetice 4y ago
Ack, YouTube Music did this thing where it was playing random YouTube videos from people who uploaded the song, rather than an "official" release, and I fled wildly. I want nothing to do with YouTube when I load in YouTube Music; I want as close to the "official" source as I can get, and anything else bothers me. Spotify at least delivers that for me. Did they stop doing that? I might ponder moving back to YouTube Music if so...
- tossaway0 4y ago
  I've never had that happen. I only use the mobile app, though. I've read complaints of people getting YouTube recommendations in their YTM. When I first got it, I created a second account/channel in YouTube (same login, just click on your profile pic and add an account) and I used that for YTM so they don't cross contaminate. They really should tell you this. I turned off video in the YTM app settings, because I'm listening not watching. But it still will let you listen to a video with no visuals. This is the best part of YTM; if you listen to a lot of unpublished stuff it won't be on Spotify, but there's almost always a YouTube version. It treats it like any other track, and you can add it to playlists, etc. I've never had it show a YouTube video as the first hit if there is a published version of the song. The videos are near the bottom of the results in a separate section unless it's the only result.

DoesntMatter22 4y ago

Same here. There was a Spotify dev on twitter who was saying that Spotify only hires the best and that's why they are so successful. Very arrogant. But like okay, if you are so great why can I only watch at 1x playback speed for video? I'm just not willing to watch at that rate. The other thing was clips of Rogan on YouTube showed me if I wanted to watch the full thing. Spotify doesn't really offer that in the same way at least. It's a big downgrade from YT over some UX and features that aren't that hard to create

whbrown 4y ago
> But like okay, if you are so great why can I only watch at 1x playback speed for video? Maybe they updated this recently since you last tried, but you can most certainly change the playback speed for podcast videos (0.5x–3.5x). I just did it. Of course, the UX could definitely be improved in other ways, such as providing a more organized & easily filterable feed rather than a somewhat random assortment of 'Your shows' and 'Episodes for you'.
- saurik 4y ago
  Maybe you are on mobile and the parent commenter is not? https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Mac/Adjust-video-speed-1-5x-2x-etc/td-p/5028916 https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Mac/Adjust-video-sp...
  - davisoneee 4y ago
    That is a 2-3 year old link. It's not valid. Speed adjustment is available for video podcasts on spotify desktop. I just tried it directly on a rogan podcast, and can use it on both linux and windows desktop.
    - DoesntMatter22 4y ago
      It doesn't support it in the web player which is how I use it. I hate downloading apps on the desktop.
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  They must have updated it recently because the Convo I had with him was a few months back. He just went on and on about how no one wants the feature etc. Glad they have it now.
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  Actually I double checked this. The web player (which is how I use Spotify) STILL does not support more than 1x video playback. So I guess my original point still holds true. Spotify with all their "genius" engineers still don't have the basic functionality you would expect.

Humbly8967 4y ago

I have also only seen a couple JRE episodes since the Spotify takeover, but the UI is not my problem. My problem is Spotify trying to seize control of an open ecosystem.

permo-w 4y ago
I believe they said UX. to me, Spotify has always been an example of good UI, but not so for its UX Spotify used to have this great thing where if you long-pressed a song, it’d play ~15s from the main hook. it was amazing for quickly getting the sense of a playlist or recognising a song, but they removed it because not enough people used it. and there’s the big one everyone talks about: Radio. Spotify radio used to be fantastic. in goes a song and out comes exciting new songs, with a few you know sprinkled in. for a lot of people I know, this was why they chose spotify over anything else then at some point the metrics will have shown that - shock! - people prefer songs they already know??? so now radio crams in as many songs you know as the genre will allow of course the numbers show that people like what they’re already familiar with! but that’s not the point of a fucking radio

Zetice 4y ago

Ack, YouTube Music did this thing where it was playing random YouTube videos from people who uploaded the song, rather than an "official" release, and I fled wildly. I want nothing to do with YouTube when I load in YouTube Music; I want as close to the "official" source as I can get, and anything else bothers me. Spotify at least delivers that for me. Did they stop doing that? I might ponder moving back to YouTube Music if so...

tossaway0 4y ago
I've never had that happen. I only use the mobile app, though. I've read complaints of people getting YouTube recommendations in their YTM. When I first got it, I created a second account/channel in YouTube (same login, just click on your profile pic and add an account) and I used that for YTM so they don't cross contaminate. They really should tell you this. I turned off video in the YTM app settings, because I'm listening not watching. But it still will let you listen to a video with no visuals. This is the best part of YTM; if you listen to a lot of unpublished stuff it won't be on Spotify, but there's almost always a YouTube version. It treats it like any other track, and you can add it to playlists, etc. I've never had it show a YouTube video as the first hit if there is a published version of the song. The videos are near the bottom of the results in a separate section unless it's the only result.