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> Microsoft has been executing very very well for the last few years. Indeed. ~13 years ago I'd have said MS would be mostly irrelevant by the mid-late 2020's
by MisterTea 4y ago
> Microsoft has been executing very very well for the last few years.
Indeed. ~13 years ago I'd have said MS would be mostly irrelevant by the mid-late 2020's as they missed the mobile bus in the 00's which Google and Apple have on lock down.
But MS knows one thing well: developers (Thanks Ballmer). Azure, Github, vscode - a full stack of tools developers can use to deploy software - without Windows! Very smart move as they can't fight Apple or Google on the front end, so go after the back end - the engines that keep the lights on and money flowing.
They're continuing this tooling trend with AI which they can integrate into their existing tools to accelerate development (copilot, etc.) Honestly, with all this tooling in place I would not be surprised if we see a Windows mobile/phone OS make a comeback.
- ipaddr 4y agoIf there is one thing Microsoft doesn't know or understand it's the open source developer. Buying github then stealing ip to bundle in co-pilot. Developers don't love Azure but large governmental orgs cto's do.
- lovich 4y agoWell open source developers seem allergic to making profit and Microsoft is a for profit business, so I don’t think it’s a big surprises which market they are targeting.
- ipaddr 4y agoMost developers work with open source languages / products. The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year. I remember when many paid thousands for msdn subscriptions.
- strbean 4y agoI think most open source developers who would boycott Microsoft products because of their (abusive?) approach to training Copilot were probably already boycotting Microsoft products. Not much point chasing a market with a lifelong grudge against you.
- louthy 4y ago> The market for closed source Microsoft sponsored languages gets smaller each year Presumably because they're all open source now? C# is still in the top 5 according to TIOBE [4] (whether we pay any attention to that is shrug), but they reckon it's grown in usage in the past year. Typescript is probably one of the fastest growing languages (in terms of usage). [C#] https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang [F#] https://fsharp.org/ https://fsharp.org/ [Typescript] https://www.typescriptlang.org/ https://www.typescriptlang.org/ [4] https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
- FridgeSeal 4y agoI am not sure I follow your argument here. Parent comment said most devs use open source technologies. That is, when given the option, most devs will choose open source technologies where possible. As such, offering licensed, closed-source products to devs is a bit of a waste. People want to pay for hosted/managed versions of open source products they’re already using, not extra for licences. This is one area I’d say AWS has the advantage.
- bastardoperator 4y agoLOL, is this satire? I couldn't tell...