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Google launches first Android beta for ad-tracking overhaul

15 points by dkobia 4y ago

elashri 4y ago
> which Google claims will limit user data being shared with third parties and remove cross-app identifiers, while still supporting personalized ads. That's is the core problem with google, they are in ads business so they will never remove the core problem. personalized ads require some form of targeting and this will be a privacy problem no matter what they try to do.
GabrieleR 4y ago
Yea, sandboxing is great. Sure. Having bought a pixel 6 one year ago; first, I felt constricted by the on-product policy of "enforced" android 13 upgrade [1] then, this appealing beta, that would be hard to pass if proposed. It's mental considering how few devices are in Europe. Is this this the future? Yes, conveniently then, let's get paid for that. There no shame in selling digital property. It's data. Still, can't see how that could be the right approach to take, but curiously the current prospect depicted in this article are closely not optional. So, let's embrace it. [1] android 13 is definitely the way to go, even if you didn't had to choose. It's a first in a while kind of platform that allows virtualization of multiple server OSs on-board the device. It's portable since tou have a windows 10 personal computer if necessary in you pocket.
- jacooper 4y ago
  > this appealing beta, that would be hard to pass if proposed. It's mental considering how few devices are in Europe. Maybe pixels, but not android phones. Also its not only Europe doing this, after the GDPR, many countries realized that's its actually possible to legally force companies to be more private, and save data locally in the country. > [1] android 13 is definitely the way to go, even if you didn't had to choose. It's a first in a while kind of platform that allows virtualization of multiple server OSs on-board the device. It's portable since tou have a windows 10 personal computer if necessary in you pocket. Do you have more details about this? I may turn an old phone into a docker server if that's actually possible. Also I think android 13 was forced because android 12 was a disaster on the pixel 6 series.
jacooper 4y ago
> The Privacy Sandbox on Android shares some similarities with Google’s Privacy Sandbox for web project, which aims to begin phasing out third-party cookies in Chrome by 2024. Google says that the two projects share a “common vision of enhancing user privacy while supporting key business capabilities” but use distinct technologies and will be developed independently. Sharing the goal of half-assing digital Privacy to try to fool users/regulators that google actually cares when they don't.

15 points by dkobia 4y ago

> which Google claims will limit user data being shared with third parties and remove cross-app identifiers, while still supporting personalized ads. That's is the core problem with google, they are in ads business so they will never remove the core problem. personalized ads require some form of targeting and this will be a privacy problem no matter what they try to do.

GabrieleR 4y ago

Yea, sandboxing is great. Sure. Having bought a pixel 6 one year ago; first, I felt constricted by the on-product policy of "enforced" android 13 upgrade [1] then, this appealing beta, that would be hard to pass if proposed. It's mental considering how few devices are in Europe. Is this this the future? Yes, conveniently then, let's get paid for that. There no shame in selling digital property. It's data. Still, can't see how that could be the right approach to take, but curiously the current prospect depicted in this article are closely not optional. So, let's embrace it. [1] android 13 is definitely the way to go, even if you didn't had to choose. It's a first in a while kind of platform that allows virtualization of multiple server OSs on-board the device. It's portable since tou have a windows 10 personal computer if necessary in you pocket.

jacooper 4y ago
> this appealing beta, that would be hard to pass if proposed. It's mental considering how few devices are in Europe. Maybe pixels, but not android phones. Also its not only Europe doing this, after the GDPR, many countries realized that's its actually possible to legally force companies to be more private, and save data locally in the country. > [1] android 13 is definitely the way to go, even if you didn't had to choose. It's a first in a while kind of platform that allows virtualization of multiple server OSs on-board the device. It's portable since tou have a windows 10 personal computer if necessary in you pocket. Do you have more details about this? I may turn an old phone into a docker server if that's actually possible. Also I think android 13 was forced because android 12 was a disaster on the pixel 6 series.

jacooper 4y ago

> The Privacy Sandbox on Android shares some similarities with Google’s Privacy Sandbox for web project, which aims to begin phasing out third-party cookies in Chrome by 2024. Google says that the two projects share a “common vision of enhancing user privacy while supporting key business capabilities” but use distinct technologies and will be developed independently. Sharing the goal of half-assing digital Privacy to try to fool users/regulators that google actually cares when they don't.