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Fair, but the question isn’t whether it is useful but whether it will replace traditional search

rvnx 4y ago
Yes it will replace search. The same way that cars replaced horses, and planes replaced zeppelins because they are had a significant speed advantage and allowed humans to spend time doing more productive activities that can't be automated. Then traditional search is going to become "raw index search" that you can query writing something like "intitle:"carbonara" source:"google_index"" or "give me all webpages containing carbonara in its title"
- sumeno 4y ago
  And how Google Glass replaced smartphones, bitcoin replaced USD, Juicero replaced juicers, Segways replaced walking, and Second Life replaced life.
  - rvnx 4y ago
    I think it is something to reconsider, especially if you genuinely don't perceive the difference of value between Juicero and a product that has been adopted by 100 million users in its first 2 months. Really, you can believe me, outside Silicon Valley, nobody cares or cared about Juicero. This is very different for ChatGPT, and I'm sure that if you get interested to it you'll find interesting usages with it that can fit your daily workflow (or just fun! like with image generation models).
    - visarga 4y ago
      ChatGPT frenzy goes all the way to China. They are reacting with "huge excitement", but also realising how far behind they are.
      - TeMPOraL 4y ago
        I stopped considering ChatGPT to be niche/nerdy phenomenon after, less than two weeks after release, I overheard some random Polish commentary youtubers (the YouTube equivalent of mass market celebrity gossip, except more self-referential) showcasing the chatbot and voicing their opinions about large language models. One useful thing I learned from this, though, is that ChatGPT can handle Polish just fine. It never even occurred to me to try it - I incorrectly assumed the model was trained on English text only. I suspect that being multilingual from day 1 was a huge factor in ChatGPT's sudden and extreme user growth.
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cstejerean 4y ago
It doesn't need to replace it though. If Bing has good chatgpt which is useful for some non-trivial amount of searches then people will go there instead of google and then also run all their other searches there as well. It just needs to be useful enough to dislodge the google monopoly.
- fortuna86 4y ago
  If the search product still isn't good enough, why would a ChatGPT panel make the difference? You can always pull up ChatGPT in another tab.
  - w0m 4y ago
    'in another tab' == never for 98% of the population.
  - petra 4y ago
    I doubt most people measure search quality in any useful way. People are lazy and are creatures of habit. Give them a single place to talk to ChatGPT and to search, they'll take it.

rvnx 4y ago

Yes it will replace search. The same way that cars replaced horses, and planes replaced zeppelins because they are had a significant speed advantage and allowed humans to spend time doing more productive activities that can't be automated. Then traditional search is going to become "raw index search" that you can query writing something like "intitle:"carbonara" source:"google_index"" or "give me all webpages containing carbonara in its title"

sumeno 4y ago
And how Google Glass replaced smartphones, bitcoin replaced USD, Juicero replaced juicers, Segways replaced walking, and Second Life replaced life.
- rvnx 4y ago
  I think it is something to reconsider, especially if you genuinely don't perceive the difference of value between Juicero and a product that has been adopted by 100 million users in its first 2 months. Really, you can believe me, outside Silicon Valley, nobody cares or cared about Juicero. This is very different for ChatGPT, and I'm sure that if you get interested to it you'll find interesting usages with it that can fit your daily workflow (or just fun! like with image generation models).
  - visarga 4y ago
    ChatGPT frenzy goes all the way to China. They are reacting with "huge excitement", but also realising how far behind they are.
    - TeMPOraL 4y ago
      I stopped considering ChatGPT to be niche/nerdy phenomenon after, less than two weeks after release, I overheard some random Polish commentary youtubers (the YouTube equivalent of mass market celebrity gossip, except more self-referential) showcasing the chatbot and voicing their opinions about large language models. One useful thing I learned from this, though, is that ChatGPT can handle Polish just fine. It never even occurred to me to try it - I incorrectly assumed the model was trained on English text only. I suspect that being multilingual from day 1 was a huge factor in ChatGPT's sudden and extreme user growth.
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cstejerean 4y ago

It doesn't need to replace it though. If Bing has good chatgpt which is useful for some non-trivial amount of searches then people will go there instead of google and then also run all their other searches there as well. It just needs to be useful enough to dislodge the google monopoly.

fortuna86 4y ago
If the search product still isn't good enough, why would a ChatGPT panel make the difference? You can always pull up ChatGPT in another tab.
- w0m 4y ago
  'in another tab' == never for 98% of the population.
- petra 4y ago
  I doubt most people measure search quality in any useful way. People are lazy and are creatures of habit. Give them a single place to talk to ChatGPT and to search, they'll take it.