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I agree with you so much. To this person and all the others you don't have some God given right to the content they produce/deliver. Instead of pirating go with

I agree with you so much. To this person and all the others you don't have some God given right to the content they produce/deliver. Instead of pirating go without. Will life stop if you don't watch the latest episode of Community? Probably. Give it a go. If you die I have dibs on your $2000 Macbook Pro, $800 iPhone, $250 Sennheiser headphones, etc. The very phrase 'Because you are messing with my life' in this context shows how much is wrong with the current culture. These companies are destroying civilisation? I've asked this question before: If I create a piece of software and ask you to not use it without purchasing it, will you do that? Very few people seem to be able to answer yes. The people who can't answer yes are those who are ruining civilisation. There is so much hyperbole in this article ("Messing with my life was not enough. You are even trying to destroy one of the pillar of our society: education.") I'm not quite sure if it's satirical or not, hah. Steve Jobs mentioned that in the end it comes down to the person knowing they've done something wrong after they've tried to rationalise their way out of it ("BUT IT'S NOT STEALING" or whatever the latest fad is). During high school I pirated a hell of a lot of software, videogames, music, movies—everything. I still bought more video games than most people will in their life times but that in no way balances what I pirated. I've stopped (All I have left is to make a list of the music I have and listen to in order to delete it all and slowly purchase it, which I've started doing). I either pay for something, borrow it or go without. The funny thing is, I don't like these big corporations either. I wish people would stop treating them as large, mythical and faceless entities but talk to the people behind the door. Until both sides come to understand each other and seek that communication they [we] will forever be at war. I don't support SOPA nor do I support blatant pirates.

ThomPete 15y ago
And the artists don't have a god given right to produce it once and sell it many times.
- technoslut 15y ago
  Yes they do because they created it. As much as they have ownership over their music, you have the god given right not to buy it.
  - ThomPete 15y ago
    Well then they have a god given right to not digitalize it.
    - technoslut 15y ago
      You're right but do you really want to return to the 90s when CDs cost $20 each and you had to carry around a 100 CDs instead of an mp3 player? Or to the 80s when we used lo-fi tapes instead? The labels would love this. It shouldn't be required of just the RIAA to use technology properly but everyone. If someone makes music you like, and they're not attempting to rob, respect them. $1 is not much for a song you enjoy.
      - ThomPete 15y ago
        I don't care what the labels do. If they fell they cant make money that way then they should probably stay out of the digital business model. But the truth of course is that they saw huge benefits throughout the years as it became cheaper and cheaper for them to produce and distribute the music. Where is your sympathy for all the truckers, records store people etc. that lost their jobs because of digitalization? I personally have more sympathy for them, the musicians will always have the music. Whether they will be able to live from it is another thing. The smart ones will.
        technoslut 15y ago
        I'm trying to understand your point. Are you for digital music being available or not? >Where is your sympathy for all the truckers, records store people etc. that lost their jobs because of digitalization? Of course I do have sympathy for them but humanity has to move forward. We are living in a disruptive age – much like those in the beginning of the Industrial Age. Humanity will need to adjust. This really is another subject for another story and doesn't hold relevance to the topic of piracy. >I personally have more sympathy for them, the musicians will always have the music. Whether they will be able to live from it is another thing. This makes no sense. You are condemning musicians to the same fate as those you mentioned. The only difference is that potential future truckers and HS/college students at record stores won't suffer because there will be new jobs created but the artist always will. The world does not need more starving artists.
- route66 15y ago
  I see that you are the maker of FinalTouch. Where do you offer the free downloads?
  - ThomPete 15y ago
    Why should i? People pay for it. Did I ever say that you shouldn't be allowed to make money? Of corse not. I said its not a right but an opportunity.
    - urbanjunkie 15y ago
      I certainly intend to find and distribute pirate versions of FinalTouch. You're ok with that, right?
      - ThomPete 15y ago
        Yes of course. If you really want to go through the trouble. Be my guest. It's not going to mean anything.
pingswept 15y ago
I agree with your sentiment, but it seems you have a contradiction here: " (All I have left is to make a list of the music I have and listen to in order to delete it all and slowly purchase it, which I've started doing). I either pay for something, borrow it or go without." If you really believe what you say, you'd delete all your pirated music right now. Either that, or you might modify your views a bit.
- dorian-graph 15y ago
  I have some free time today after work where I'm going to finish making the list and then I'll have it all deleted. :)
  - pingswept 15y ago
    To quote you: "you don't have some God given right to the content they produce/deliver. Instead of pirating go without." I don't understand how that fits with finishing making the list. If you can keep some pirated music around since high school, and now longer so that you can make a list, can't I download a little to see if I like it? If it's good, I'll pay to go to a concert or buy the tracks off Amazon. ":)"

ThomPete 15y ago

And the artists don't have a god given right to produce it once and sell it many times.

technoslut 15y ago
Yes they do because they created it. As much as they have ownership over their music, you have the god given right not to buy it.
- ThomPete 15y ago
  Well then they have a god given right to not digitalize it.
  - technoslut 15y ago
    You're right but do you really want to return to the 90s when CDs cost $20 each and you had to carry around a 100 CDs instead of an mp3 player? Or to the 80s when we used lo-fi tapes instead? The labels would love this. It shouldn't be required of just the RIAA to use technology properly but everyone. If someone makes music you like, and they're not attempting to rob, respect them. $1 is not much for a song you enjoy.
    - ThomPete 15y ago
      I don't care what the labels do. If they fell they cant make money that way then they should probably stay out of the digital business model. But the truth of course is that they saw huge benefits throughout the years as it became cheaper and cheaper for them to produce and distribute the music. Where is your sympathy for all the truckers, records store people etc. that lost their jobs because of digitalization? I personally have more sympathy for them, the musicians will always have the music. Whether they will be able to live from it is another thing. The smart ones will.
      - technoslut 15y ago
        I'm trying to understand your point. Are you for digital music being available or not? >Where is your sympathy for all the truckers, records store people etc. that lost their jobs because of digitalization? Of course I do have sympathy for them but humanity has to move forward. We are living in a disruptive age – much like those in the beginning of the Industrial Age. Humanity will need to adjust. This really is another subject for another story and doesn't hold relevance to the topic of piracy. >I personally have more sympathy for them, the musicians will always have the music. Whether they will be able to live from it is another thing. This makes no sense. You are condemning musicians to the same fate as those you mentioned. The only difference is that potential future truckers and HS/college students at record stores won't suffer because there will be new jobs created but the artist always will. The world does not need more starving artists.
route66 15y ago
I see that you are the maker of FinalTouch. Where do you offer the free downloads?
- ThomPete 15y ago
  Why should i? People pay for it. Did I ever say that you shouldn't be allowed to make money? Of corse not. I said its not a right but an opportunity.
  - urbanjunkie 15y ago
    I certainly intend to find and distribute pirate versions of FinalTouch. You're ok with that, right?
    - ThomPete 15y ago
      Yes of course. If you really want to go through the trouble. Be my guest. It's not going to mean anything.

pingswept 15y ago

I agree with your sentiment, but it seems you have a contradiction here: " (All I have left is to make a list of the music I have and listen to in order to delete it all and slowly purchase it, which I've started doing). I either pay for something, borrow it or go without." If you really believe what you say, you'd delete all your pirated music right now. Either that, or you might modify your views a bit.

dorian-graph 15y ago
I have some free time today after work where I'm going to finish making the list and then I'll have it all deleted. :)
- pingswept 15y ago
  To quote you: "you don't have some God given right to the content they produce/deliver. Instead of pirating go without." I don't understand how that fits with finishing making the list. If you can keep some pirated music around since high school, and now longer so that you can make a list, can't I download a little to see if I like it? If it's good, I'll pay to go to a concert or buy the tracks off Amazon. ":)"