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I just watched the HBO Chernobyl miniseries (excellent, btw) and the parallels to the initial lack of action to a huge public health threat is chilling. If ther

I just watched the HBO Chernobyl miniseries (excellent, btw) and the parallels to the initial lack of action to a huge public health threat is chilling. If there is a carcinogen in the air, get people out of there!

xadhominemx 4y ago
There is not a carcinogen in the air. They evacuated the town while they performed the controlled burn, but now the combustion products (not really carcinogens) have dispersed and it’s safe to return.
- realce 4y ago
  So you would feel fine having your kids live their day-to-day in this area? Would you buy a house 1 mile away from the epicenter?
  - xadhominemx 4y ago
    Ya. It’s easy to measure the contamination and the spilled products have very short half lives in the air/soil. I would probably want to monitor my well water for a little while if I were in the immediate vicinity.
    - lm28469 4y ago
      > It’s easy to measure the contamination Can you elaborate on how you'd do that ? Don't tell me you'd trust the official line, given the track record it's not a viable option Same for well water ? Can you get a same day reading on it ? What would you do in the meantime ? Wouldn't it be too late by the time you get the air results ?
- lm28469 4y ago
  Just like 911's ground zero was safe ;) nothing to see, move along, uh what cancers are you talking about ?? you must be imagining it
  - sschueller 4y ago
    There was an asbestos ad [1] featuring the twin towers. How can one expect the air to be safe after we know what asbestos does to you. [1] https://preview.redd.it/8cf7ufrnxlw31.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=9b5b1e12cff5f5f42b6c1048a970666f1867031f https://preview.redd.it/8cf7ufrnxlw31.jpg?auto=webp&v=enable...
    - lm28469 4y ago
      Yet: "Former EPA head admits she was wrong to tell New Yorkers post-9/11 air was safe" It's the real world and in the real world you have dozens of entities competing against each-other to get their version to be believed. Same shit with Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. The truth doesn't really matter until decades later. You'll have overly cautious people, overly pessimistic people, overly optimistic people, straight up lying to cover their asses people, &c. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/epa-head-wrong-911-air-safe-new-york-christine-todd-whitman https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/epa-head-wro...
  - xadhominemx 4y ago
    Excellent example to make my point. First responders stood directly on the smoldering pile of thousands of chemical compounds for months with no PPE. You see how that is very different from the EP situation, no?

xadhominemx 4y ago

There is not a carcinogen in the air. They evacuated the town while they performed the controlled burn, but now the combustion products (not really carcinogens) have dispersed and it’s safe to return.

realce 4y ago
So you would feel fine having your kids live their day-to-day in this area? Would you buy a house 1 mile away from the epicenter?
- xadhominemx 4y ago
  Ya. It’s easy to measure the contamination and the spilled products have very short half lives in the air/soil. I would probably want to monitor my well water for a little while if I were in the immediate vicinity.
  - lm28469 4y ago
    > It’s easy to measure the contamination Can you elaborate on how you'd do that ? Don't tell me you'd trust the official line, given the track record it's not a viable option Same for well water ? Can you get a same day reading on it ? What would you do in the meantime ? Wouldn't it be too late by the time you get the air results ?
lm28469 4y ago
Just like 911's ground zero was safe ;) nothing to see, move along, uh what cancers are you talking about ?? you must be imagining it
- sschueller 4y ago
  There was an asbestos ad [1] featuring the twin towers. How can one expect the air to be safe after we know what asbestos does to you. [1] https://preview.redd.it/8cf7ufrnxlw31.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=9b5b1e12cff5f5f42b6c1048a970666f1867031f https://preview.redd.it/8cf7ufrnxlw31.jpg?auto=webp&v=enable...
  - lm28469 4y ago
    Yet: "Former EPA head admits she was wrong to tell New Yorkers post-9/11 air was safe" It's the real world and in the real world you have dozens of entities competing against each-other to get their version to be believed. Same shit with Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. The truth doesn't really matter until decades later. You'll have overly cautious people, overly pessimistic people, overly optimistic people, straight up lying to cover their asses people, &c. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/epa-head-wrong-911-air-safe-new-york-christine-todd-whitman https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/epa-head-wro...
- xadhominemx 4y ago
  Excellent example to make my point. First responders stood directly on the smoldering pile of thousands of chemical compounds for months with no PPE. You see how that is very different from the EP situation, no?