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Except it's not irrational this time. Porn has gotten much more extreme and way easier to access than before. When I was a kid - I could only access porn magazi

by zirgs 4y ago

Except it's not irrational this time. Porn has gotten much more extreme and way easier to access than before. When I was a kid - I could only access porn magazines that were relatively tame. Porn industry is not doing anything to prevent children from watching it. If self-regulation is non-existent then the government has to step in.

seanw444 4y ago
Or... parent better? Kids are going to see messed up stuff. Teach them why it's wrong, and that coming to you about it is good. That they should respect women, and other human beings in general, and that porn is almost as fantastical as Star Wars. And restrict their internet yourself if it's that big of a deal. I'm sick of people sucking at their responsibilities so much that they think the government doing it for them is a great option. It's lazy.
- nerdponx 4y ago
  As much as I agree, it is a little unsettling to see how extreme porn can be, specifically because of how easy it is to accidentally stumble across something extreme even when you didn't intend to. Even "hardcore" porn seems to have gotten harder-core in my lifetime alone, and if it weren't for the Web I'd probably never have seen anything other than old-school softcore stuff until much later in my life. People are absolutely entitled to their own tastes, on or off camera, in a consensual setting. But I also think we can come up with better "on-ramps" to pornography and the wide variety of sex acts that exist in the world, without allowing young people to wander without warning into STEPMOM LET ME PUT IT WHERE?? DONT TELL DAD and YOUNG ANGEL TRIPLE GANGBANG and THINKING ABOUT MY CRUSH WHILE DOING FAIRLY EXTREME THINGS TO MY BUTT (a real title that I will never forget, and yes they were "extreme" even by today's standards). Not to mention the subtle racism and often-not-subtle misogyny that still exists in traditional porn tropes, and IMO might be more harmful than actually watching porn itself. Also the sheer amount of step-sibling porn on the free porn "tube" sites is especially weird and disconcerting, given that young people are most likely to see porn there and not on, say, an private OnlyFans channel or a production studio site like Brazzers. Of course, we can't ever guide our children to healthy relationships with sex and pornography unless we actually talk about pornography with our children, which as a society we are not well-equipped to do.
- zirgs 4y ago
  I was not able to access messed up stuff when I was a kid. We didn't have phones and internet. My parents didn't have to do anything special. But in today's environment - you just can't. Unless you lock your kid up and homeschool them. You can set up all sorts of parental controls on their computer and phone, but you can't do anything about their friends' phones and computers.
sowbug 4y ago
The porn you watched as a kid was fine, but the porn you watch today isn't acceptable for today's kids. Is that your position?
- zirgs 4y ago
  Not the porn I watch, but the porn that's easily accessible nowadays. BDSM, choking, simulated rape, incest and other more extreme stuff wasn't accessible anywhere when I was a kid. It wasn't something that you could find in your dad's or uncle's mancave.

by zirgs 4y ago

seanw444 4y ago

Or... parent better? Kids are going to see messed up stuff. Teach them why it's wrong, and that coming to you about it is good. That they should respect women, and other human beings in general, and that porn is almost as fantastical as Star Wars. And restrict their internet yourself if it's that big of a deal. I'm sick of people sucking at their responsibilities so much that they think the government doing it for them is a great option. It's lazy.

nerdponx 4y ago
As much as I agree, it is a little unsettling to see how extreme porn can be, specifically because of how easy it is to accidentally stumble across something extreme even when you didn't intend to. Even "hardcore" porn seems to have gotten harder-core in my lifetime alone, and if it weren't for the Web I'd probably never have seen anything other than old-school softcore stuff until much later in my life. People are absolutely entitled to their own tastes, on or off camera, in a consensual setting. But I also think we can come up with better "on-ramps" to pornography and the wide variety of sex acts that exist in the world, without allowing young people to wander without warning into STEPMOM LET ME PUT IT WHERE?? DONT TELL DAD and YOUNG ANGEL TRIPLE GANGBANG and THINKING ABOUT MY CRUSH WHILE DOING FAIRLY EXTREME THINGS TO MY BUTT (a real title that I will never forget, and yes they were "extreme" even by today's standards). Not to mention the subtle racism and often-not-subtle misogyny that still exists in traditional porn tropes, and IMO might be more harmful than actually watching porn itself. Also the sheer amount of step-sibling porn on the free porn "tube" sites is especially weird and disconcerting, given that young people are most likely to see porn there and not on, say, an private OnlyFans channel or a production studio site like Brazzers. Of course, we can't ever guide our children to healthy relationships with sex and pornography unless we actually talk about pornography with our children, which as a society we are not well-equipped to do.
zirgs 4y ago
I was not able to access messed up stuff when I was a kid. We didn't have phones and internet. My parents didn't have to do anything special. But in today's environment - you just can't. Unless you lock your kid up and homeschool them. You can set up all sorts of parental controls on their computer and phone, but you can't do anything about their friends' phones and computers.

sowbug 4y ago

The porn you watched as a kid was fine, but the porn you watch today isn't acceptable for today's kids. Is that your position?

zirgs 4y ago
Not the porn I watch, but the porn that's easily accessible nowadays. BDSM, choking, simulated rape, incest and other more extreme stuff wasn't accessible anywhere when I was a kid. It wasn't something that you could find in your dad's or uncle's mancave.