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So Biden, through the Department of Transport and Pete Buttigieg couldn't put those regulations back in place? Or were right in forcing striking rail workers ba

So Biden, through the Department of Transport and Pete Buttigieg couldn't put those regulations back in place? Or were right in forcing striking rail workers back to work instead of, oh I don't know, supported them on basic issues like safety? Yes Republicans are bad. But so are Dems, and their voters refusing to hold the party accountable for obvious failures. It's why the country is going to shift. R's pass bad policy, and D's cry about R's instead of governing

themitigating 4y ago
How do you know the crash was the result of missing regulations? Republicans are against government regulations,you know "big government" and all that, so why would they do a better job?
- slantedview 4y ago
  > How do you know the crash was the result of missing regulations? "“Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes,” Steven Ditmeyer, a former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), told The Lever." https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/ https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rule...
  - themitigating 4y ago
    This regulation was put into place during the Obama administration ( I don't know if it was implemented) then the Trump administration removed it.
    - passwordoops 4y ago
      >then the Trump administration removed it. And the Biden administration, with control of both houses, couldn't put it back in place? Republicans suck, yes. But Dems aren't any better and partisan bickering results in no one held accountable
      - themitigating 4y ago
        False equivalence. Both sides arent equally bad and voting is a choice between them
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  Unfortunately this issue has multiple factors that contributed, and weakening the legislation and regulations that were put in place to avoid issues like this by the Obama administration: "The sequence of events began a decade ago in the wake of a major uptick in derailments of trains carrying crude oil and hazardous chemicals, including a New Jersey train crash that leaked the same toxic chemical as in Ohio. In response, the Obama administration in 2014 proposed improving safety regulations for trains carrying petroleum and other hazardous materials. However, after industry pressure, the final measure ended up narrowly focused on the transport of crude oil and exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including the chemical involved in this weekend’s disaster." [0] Subsequently by the Trump Administration: "The AAR lobbying group concurred that “the costs of the ECP rule substantially outweigh its benefits,” and claimed the mandate would cost them about $3 billion — or roughly 2 weeks of their operating revenue in a typical year. The FRA estimated the brake requirement would cost about half a billion. Trump’s Transportation Department ultimately rescinded the brake rule in late 2017." [0] According to federal investigators, there was a mechanical issue with a car's axle, which basically ends with a derailment. The ECP brakes may have lessened hazard by braking all the cars immediately, classifying the train as HHFT may have meant the train would be going slower than it was, I couldn't find any data about the speed the train was moving at. This seems to be an area of bipartisan consensus, putting the interests of big business above those of the people. [0] - https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/ https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rule...
  - themitigating 4y ago
    "This seems to be an area of bipartisan consensus, putting the interests of big business above those of the people." So Obama added the regulations, Trump removed them and that's your conclusion?
    - MarkMarine 4y ago
      Yes it is, if Obama’s regime had the strength of their convictions to enact the rules they wanted, that train would have been classified hazardous. I found out that classification would have meant it would have the better brakes as well as being shorter and speed limited more. I think an objective look shows multiple failures by 3 different governments to reign in the greed of railroad execs and protect the people in Ohio. What do you see?
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Democrats are against government regulation, they worship B. Clinton and he deregulated everything. Both US parties, as usual, support regulation that damages the other party's prospects or damages the competitors of their own donors.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    False equivalence Clinton was president in the 90s, prove he removed more regulations than Republicans, finally Republicans are the only ones who compalin about regulations
    - passwordoops 4y ago
      Clinton lifted Glass-Steagal, a deregulation move that can be directly linked to creating the conditions that led to the 2008 crash, the consolidation craze that's ruining every industry (including rail), the erosion of worker rights and the growing wealth gap that is really at the root of populism including Trump
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Prove the lifting of that act was a significant cause of the wealth gap

themitigating 4y ago

How do you know the crash was the result of missing regulations? Republicans are against government regulations,you know "big government" and all that, so why would they do a better job?

slantedview 4y ago
> How do you know the crash was the result of missing regulations? "“Would ECP brakes have reduced the severity of this accident? Yes,” Steven Ditmeyer, a former senior official at the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA), told The Lever." https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/ https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rule...
- themitigating 4y ago
  This regulation was put into place during the Obama administration ( I don't know if it was implemented) then the Trump administration removed it.
  - passwordoops 4y ago
    >then the Trump administration removed it. And the Biden administration, with control of both houses, couldn't put it back in place? Republicans suck, yes. But Dems aren't any better and partisan bickering results in no one held accountable
    - themitigating 4y ago
      False equivalence. Both sides arent equally bad and voting is a choice between them
MarkMarine 4y ago
Unfortunately this issue has multiple factors that contributed, and weakening the legislation and regulations that were put in place to avoid issues like this by the Obama administration: "The sequence of events began a decade ago in the wake of a major uptick in derailments of trains carrying crude oil and hazardous chemicals, including a New Jersey train crash that leaked the same toxic chemical as in Ohio. In response, the Obama administration in 2014 proposed improving safety regulations for trains carrying petroleum and other hazardous materials. However, after industry pressure, the final measure ended up narrowly focused on the transport of crude oil and exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including the chemical involved in this weekend’s disaster." [0] Subsequently by the Trump Administration: "The AAR lobbying group concurred that “the costs of the ECP rule substantially outweigh its benefits,” and claimed the mandate would cost them about $3 billion — or roughly 2 weeks of their operating revenue in a typical year. The FRA estimated the brake requirement would cost about half a billion. Trump’s Transportation Department ultimately rescinded the brake rule in late 2017." [0] According to federal investigators, there was a mechanical issue with a car's axle, which basically ends with a derailment. The ECP brakes may have lessened hazard by braking all the cars immediately, classifying the train as HHFT may have meant the train would be going slower than it was, I couldn't find any data about the speed the train was moving at. This seems to be an area of bipartisan consensus, putting the interests of big business above those of the people. [0] - https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/ https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rule...
- themitigating 4y ago
  "This seems to be an area of bipartisan consensus, putting the interests of big business above those of the people." So Obama added the regulations, Trump removed them and that's your conclusion?
  - MarkMarine 4y ago
    Yes it is, if Obama’s regime had the strength of their convictions to enact the rules they wanted, that train would have been classified hazardous. I found out that classification would have meant it would have the better brakes as well as being shorter and speed limited more. I think an objective look shows multiple failures by 3 different governments to reign in the greed of railroad execs and protect the people in Ohio. What do you see?
pessimizer 4y ago
Democrats are against government regulation, they worship B. Clinton and he deregulated everything. Both US parties, as usual, support regulation that damages the other party's prospects or damages the competitors of their own donors.
- themitigating 4y ago
  False equivalence Clinton was president in the 90s, prove he removed more regulations than Republicans, finally Republicans are the only ones who compalin about regulations
  - passwordoops 4y ago
    Clinton lifted Glass-Steagal, a deregulation move that can be directly linked to creating the conditions that led to the 2008 crash, the consolidation craze that's ruining every industry (including rail), the erosion of worker rights and the growing wealth gap that is really at the root of populism including Trump
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Prove the lifting of that act was a significant cause of the wealth gap