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My daughter has a girlfriend who was watching hardcore porn at age 7 or 8 and telling my daughter all about it. That is not healthy for that kid. They are goi

My daughter has a girlfriend who was watching hardcore porn at age 7 or 8 and telling my daughter all about it. That is not healthy for that kid. They are going to get the wrong impression of how to interact with boys and it is pretty clear something is off with that kid now. We limit alcohol, driving, tobacco, voting for minors because we judge them not smart enough to make good decisions. Why do you feel we should not exclude hardcore porn?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> Why do you feel we should not exclude hardcore porn? I don’t think kids should watch porn. I do think banning it will be as successful as we’ve been with alcohol, with the same blowback that comes from surrounding something in mystery and black markets.
- bhouston 4y ago
  Raising barriers to access works. Kids generally do not drink alcohol, drive, vote or smoke. There are exceptions but it makes it a lot harder and does reduce access. And when they do drink and smoke it is generally when they are close in age to the end of the ban. To say that some will get around it doesn’t mean we should not do what is best for that group as a whole. Unlimited and early extensive use of social media and hardcore porn is not healthy for kids. It will screw up their worldview. We should ban and limit them smartly if we want to support healthy kids.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    Porn, a digital good, is easier to circumvent access controls to than alcohol. And we’re crap at keeping our kids from drinking before they’re even fifteen [1]. So I agree with the goal: less porn in front of children. But I disagree with the method: trying to ban it. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/725020/age-of-first-alcohol-use-among-young-people-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/725020/age-of-first-alco...
    - fiso64 4y ago
      I'm not sure this statistic tells us much. It'd be more interesting to compare something like teen alcoholism rates vs legal drinking age. For all we know an age requirement may very well lower alcohol abuse rates. Besides, I really don't see a reason not to restrict it - should we just legalize alcohol for all ages? I think not, because what we have right now most likely does not hurt. Same logic for porn.
      - cmh89 4y ago
        If the goal of the 21 year old drinking age is to prevent addiction, its not working The United States has one of the highest rates of alcohol addiction in the world. https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country/ https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country...
        fiso64 4y ago
        No controlled trial means we don't know if it's helping or not. Nobody is saying that the legal drinking age is the sole determinant of addiction rates.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> Why do you feel we should not exclude hardcore porn? I don’t think kids should watch porn. I do think banning it will be as successful as we’ve been with alcohol, with the same blowback that comes from surrounding something in mystery and black markets.

bhouston 4y ago
Raising barriers to access works. Kids generally do not drink alcohol, drive, vote or smoke. There are exceptions but it makes it a lot harder and does reduce access. And when they do drink and smoke it is generally when they are close in age to the end of the ban. To say that some will get around it doesn’t mean we should not do what is best for that group as a whole. Unlimited and early extensive use of social media and hardcore porn is not healthy for kids. It will screw up their worldview. We should ban and limit them smartly if we want to support healthy kids.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  Porn, a digital good, is easier to circumvent access controls to than alcohol. And we’re crap at keeping our kids from drinking before they’re even fifteen [1]. So I agree with the goal: less porn in front of children. But I disagree with the method: trying to ban it. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/725020/age-of-first-alcohol-use-among-young-people-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/725020/age-of-first-alco...
  - fiso64 4y ago
    I'm not sure this statistic tells us much. It'd be more interesting to compare something like teen alcoholism rates vs legal drinking age. For all we know an age requirement may very well lower alcohol abuse rates. Besides, I really don't see a reason not to restrict it - should we just legalize alcohol for all ages? I think not, because what we have right now most likely does not hurt. Same logic for porn.
    - cmh89 4y ago
      If the goal of the 21 year old drinking age is to prevent addiction, its not working The United States has one of the highest rates of alcohol addiction in the world. https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country/ https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country...
      - fiso64 4y ago
        No controlled trial means we don't know if it's helping or not. Nobody is saying that the legal drinking age is the sole determinant of addiction rates.