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I somewhat disagree. To me, it looks like many countries are trying to diverge from the sphere of influence of the US, and US doesn’t want that happening. When

I somewhat disagree. To me, it looks like many countries are trying to diverge from the sphere of influence of the US, and US doesn’t want that happening. When the big media portrays every other country as dangerous, authoritarian, etc., it’s always interesting to seek for motivation behind the claims. As a quick example, Brooklyn is much more dangerous than pretty much anywhere in Moscow. I can’t imagine NYTimes or any other large publication say that. I wonder if China is perfectly safe and less “authoritarian” as it’s shown on prime time.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> countries are trying to diverge from the sphere of influence of the US It’s the BBC. Also, India is drifting towards the American sphere of influence. It’s historically been between non-aligned and anti-American.
- MichaelZuo 4y ago
  They're trying to extract the maximum amount of concessions by playing in the middle.
cafard 4y ago
Some portions of Brooklyn are much more dangerous than pretty much anywhere in Moscow. Some portions are not particularly dangerous. As far as I know, conscription is the major Muscovite danger talked up in the NY Times.
AbrahamParangi 4y ago
I was curious about that stat on crime rates in Moscow vs Brooklyn but I can’t find any evidence that it is true. In 2022 there were 138 homicides in Brooklyn which comes out to 4.98 homicides per 100k residents. In comparison in Moscow Oblast there were 6.9 homicides per 100k residents (in 2017, which is the latest year I can find information for this stat). So at least by homicides, Moscow seems more dangerous.
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  And in only one of those cities are you at risk of being drafted as cannon fodder.
- andreygrehov 4y ago
  Here are some stats to back my claims: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Russia&city1=Brooklyn%2C+NY&city2=Moscow&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Uni... The numbers clearly show that in general Moscow is much safer. Index Brooklyn, NY Moscow Crime Index: 45.75 36.86 Safety Scale: 54.25 63.14
  - AbrahamParangi 4y ago
    These aren't actually stats! You can't take a bunch of opinions and put a number on each one and call the result quantitative! Murders per 100k is a statistic. Violent crime rate is a statistic. Pick a statistic that is a reasonable representation of danger (I think homicide rate is a reasonable one) and show that Moscow is lower on that statistic than Brooklyn.
    - andreygrehov 4y ago
      I mean, don't like the numbers? Heh. Here is Statista - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045368/homicide-rate-in-russia/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045368/homicide-rate-in...
- dmoy 4y ago
  Homicide in Russia is weirdly undercounted too. (Though idk if that carries to Moscow specifically, or just the country as a whole)

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> countries are trying to diverge from the sphere of influence of the US It’s the BBC. Also, India is drifting towards the American sphere of influence. It’s historically been between non-aligned and anti-American.

MichaelZuo 4y ago
They're trying to extract the maximum amount of concessions by playing in the middle.

cafard 4y ago

Some portions of Brooklyn are much more dangerous than pretty much anywhere in Moscow. Some portions are not particularly dangerous. As far as I know, conscription is the major Muscovite danger talked up in the NY Times.

AbrahamParangi 4y ago

I was curious about that stat on crime rates in Moscow vs Brooklyn but I can’t find any evidence that it is true. In 2022 there were 138 homicides in Brooklyn which comes out to 4.98 homicides per 100k residents. In comparison in Moscow Oblast there were 6.9 homicides per 100k residents (in 2017, which is the latest year I can find information for this stat). So at least by homicides, Moscow seems more dangerous.

iudqnolq 4y ago
And in only one of those cities are you at risk of being drafted as cannon fodder.
andreygrehov 4y ago
Here are some stats to back my claims: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Russia&city1=Brooklyn%2C+NY&city2=Moscow&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Uni... The numbers clearly show that in general Moscow is much safer. Index Brooklyn, NY Moscow Crime Index: 45.75 36.86 Safety Scale: 54.25 63.14
- AbrahamParangi 4y ago
  These aren't actually stats! You can't take a bunch of opinions and put a number on each one and call the result quantitative! Murders per 100k is a statistic. Violent crime rate is a statistic. Pick a statistic that is a reasonable representation of danger (I think homicide rate is a reasonable one) and show that Moscow is lower on that statistic than Brooklyn.
  - andreygrehov 4y ago
    I mean, don't like the numbers? Heh. Here is Statista - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045368/homicide-rate-in-russia/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045368/homicide-rate-in...
dmoy 4y ago
Homicide in Russia is weirdly undercounted too. (Though idk if that carries to Moscow specifically, or just the country as a whole)