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I'm in the US but if the US govt passed a ban on gas vehicles effective today, I'd be extremely upset. I love my car.

by 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

esistgut 4y ago
It's not a ban on gas vehicles, it's a ban on new sales of gas vehicles. Your car would be perfectly fine.
- petodo 4y ago
  Until it breaks/crash and the repair won't be economical.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    There are many cars on the road today that are 15 to 20 years old. There are some cars on the road older than that. Things do get more complicated with recent cars, which have more specialized computing, but you'll be able to burn repurposed dinosaurs for a very long time, regardless of restrictions on new sales.
bombcar 4y ago
Good news, everyone! Almost every time a technology is banned, the old grandfathered in examples of that technology become higher value! You're car you love will become worth a bit more, as people will be incentivized to keep it running.
zirgs 4y ago
That ban is for new cars only. Existing gas cars won't go away any time soon.
Loughla 4y ago
The only reason I would be upset, is that it appears to me that new EV's come loaded with software that I don't much care for. It appears that they are MUCH easier to track than a traditional ice vehicle. Or am I incorrect?
- dashundchen 4y ago
  That's not inherent to EVs, that's just modern cars in general. Even 15 years ago, base trim ICE sedans from GM were coming with cell connected OnStar. It's inevitable that as the price came down other manufacturers would implement similar services. "Tech" in a vehicle sells, and connected services like app based locks and remote starts are an easy subscription sell.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  Not all EVs are Teslas, and as sibling comments say, even current ICE vehicle seem to be loaded with connectivity options.
cassepipe 4y ago
And I'd love that you would stop emitting CO2 because you can't go anywhere without a one ton metal case so we are still able to grow food in twenty years from now.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  You can make it broader and start getting rid of anyone who is emitting too much CO2: - Got cancer, which needs expensive treatment? Yep, that's a lot of CO2, go bite dust from below. - Are you handicapped and need others to take care of you? Well time for traditions of ancient Sparta to return. - Elderly people doing nothing, but emitting CO2. The moment people leave productive age, they should be facing wall.
  - Timon3 4y ago
    Are you not willing to live your life without your ICE car? Or why did you just make the jump from "let's ban technologies which produce too much CO2" to "let's kill unproductives"?
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
      Slippery slope. Today it is cars, tomorrow it is meat, next month it is unproductives.
      - Timon3 4y ago
        You act as if ICE vehicles bring no problems. If we keep relying on ICE vehicles, we literally kill people. We do not do that by switching to EVs. How does your slippery slope make sense when looking at the actual harm done? The worst part is: you're literally admitting that you're not arguing against the idea itself, you're arguing against what you think they want to do next. It's impossible to make progress if the ideas themselves cannot be discussed.
        TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

I'm in the US but if the US govt passed a ban on gas vehicles effective today, I'd be extremely upset. I love my car.

esistgut 4y ago

It's not a ban on gas vehicles, it's a ban on new sales of gas vehicles. Your car would be perfectly fine.

petodo 4y ago
Until it breaks/crash and the repair won't be economical.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  There are many cars on the road today that are 15 to 20 years old. There are some cars on the road older than that. Things do get more complicated with recent cars, which have more specialized computing, but you'll be able to burn repurposed dinosaurs for a very long time, regardless of restrictions on new sales.

bombcar 4y ago

Good news, everyone! Almost every time a technology is banned, the old grandfathered in examples of that technology become higher value! You're car you love will become worth a bit more, as people will be incentivized to keep it running.

zirgs 4y ago

That ban is for new cars only. Existing gas cars won't go away any time soon.

Loughla 4y ago

The only reason I would be upset, is that it appears to me that new EV's come loaded with software that I don't much care for. It appears that they are MUCH easier to track than a traditional ice vehicle. Or am I incorrect?

dashundchen 4y ago
That's not inherent to EVs, that's just modern cars in general. Even 15 years ago, base trim ICE sedans from GM were coming with cell connected OnStar. It's inevitable that as the price came down other manufacturers would implement similar services. "Tech" in a vehicle sells, and connected services like app based locks and remote starts are an easy subscription sell.
pwinnski 4y ago
Not all EVs are Teslas, and as sibling comments say, even current ICE vehicle seem to be loaded with connectivity options.

cassepipe 4y ago

And I'd love that you would stop emitting CO2 because you can't go anywhere without a one ton metal case so we are still able to grow food in twenty years from now.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
You can make it broader and start getting rid of anyone who is emitting too much CO2: - Got cancer, which needs expensive treatment? Yep, that's a lot of CO2, go bite dust from below. - Are you handicapped and need others to take care of you? Well time for traditions of ancient Sparta to return. - Elderly people doing nothing, but emitting CO2. The moment people leave productive age, they should be facing wall.
- Timon3 4y ago
  Are you not willing to live your life without your ICE car? Or why did you just make the jump from "let's ban technologies which produce too much CO2" to "let's kill unproductives"?
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    Slippery slope. Today it is cars, tomorrow it is meat, next month it is unproductives.
    - Timon3 4y ago
      You act as if ICE vehicles bring no problems. If we keep relying on ICE vehicles, we literally kill people. We do not do that by switching to EVs. How does your slippery slope make sense when looking at the actual harm done? The worst part is: you're literally admitting that you're not arguing against the idea itself, you're arguing against what you think they want to do next. It's impossible to make progress if the ideas themselves cannot be discussed.
      - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago