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I feel like there's pool of hucksters who work connections well, swoop in to management to fix big entrenched problems, and spend * 6 months "learning about wh

I feel like there's pool of hucksters who work connections well, swoop in to management to fix big entrenched problems, and spend * 6 months "learning about what's there" - and often hiring a bunch of their old buddies in to good-paying roles at their new company * 6-12 months making seemingly big changes that amount to nothing (and they hit their cliff!) * 6 or so months skating by until they find their next gig or get canned with a nice severance package My last place had a guy screw up so horribly he was removed after 9 months BUT for some bizarre reason they kept him on the payroll for 3 more months so he could hit his cliff. All while the rest of us kept things going and tried to make sense of the incomprehensible ramblings of the "team" he'd hired in to manage us. Incidentally, I discovered that at least one of them had had great success wooing managers he met on https://www.platohq.com/ https://www.platohq.com/, which seems to be a pay-to-play way to get past HR and interview gates. I should give it a try.

red-iron-pine 4y ago
> My last place had a guy screw up so horribly he was removed after 9 months BUT for some bizarre reason they kept him on the payroll for 3 more months so he could hit his cliff. almost certainly a 12 mo. contract of some sorts, or else some sort of termination cause. maybe an "on retainer" fee. point is, high level executives are in the same bell-curve as all other professions, and it's mostly a cartel.
- j45 4y ago
  > he was removed after 9 months BUT for some bizarre reason they kept him on the payroll for 3 more months so he could hit his cliff. Possibly negotiated in the contract in advance. Interesting idea
hudsonjr 4y ago
Sounds about right. I know someone who's company hired VP that was ex-McKinsey, and then they hired a bunch of ex-McKinsey staff. * offshore more dev internally * about 12 months in, lots of things breaking, so move from offshore to outsource * they try to have offshore hand off to outsource, offshore just stop working/caring * with everything in the dump, they move to a different org or leave the company It was worse than if they were just consultants, as now the people left to clean up the mess still cross paths with those that caused the problem.
- j45 4y ago
  So basically the stereotype of business degrees trying to wave hands and leave the details for others to figure out after 80% of the budget has been eaten up by $5-700/hr management consultants that can do neither.

red-iron-pine 4y ago

> My last place had a guy screw up so horribly he was removed after 9 months BUT for some bizarre reason they kept him on the payroll for 3 more months so he could hit his cliff. almost certainly a 12 mo. contract of some sorts, or else some sort of termination cause. maybe an "on retainer" fee. point is, high level executives are in the same bell-curve as all other professions, and it's mostly a cartel.

j45 4y ago
> he was removed after 9 months BUT for some bizarre reason they kept him on the payroll for 3 more months so he could hit his cliff. Possibly negotiated in the contract in advance. Interesting idea

hudsonjr 4y ago

Sounds about right. I know someone who's company hired VP that was ex-McKinsey, and then they hired a bunch of ex-McKinsey staff. * offshore more dev internally * about 12 months in, lots of things breaking, so move from offshore to outsource * they try to have offshore hand off to outsource, offshore just stop working/caring * with everything in the dump, they move to a different org or leave the company It was worse than if they were just consultants, as now the people left to clean up the mess still cross paths with those that caused the problem.

j45 4y ago
So basically the stereotype of business degrees trying to wave hands and leave the details for others to figure out after 80% of the budget has been eaten up by $5-700/hr management consultants that can do neither.