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I see your point, and yes in the id case and perhaps others, from the outside it seems wrong. But many don’t give credit to how diverse a culture exists throug
by spacephysics 4y ago
I see your point, and yes in the id case and perhaps others, from the outside it seems wrong.
But many don’t give credit to how diverse a culture exists throughout America. Northeast vs southeast vs Midwest etc.
The internet is an equalizer, but geographically there’s still cultural context that I don’t think is easy to describe unless you’re in it, or have historical knowledge of the area.
If the board or parents agree this book is wrong, we shouldn’t be wanting to have a government force them to allow certain books. That’s not called for explicitly here, but it’s the logical next step. Some remediation that goes against what the board, and let’s assume most parents agree with the board, chose.
If the board is acting in mutiny, then it’s on the parents to vote/enact change. Otherwise the system they have is working as intended.
Criticisms against their system are justified, but this discussion goes beyond books. It’s really a cultural difference, whether you agree with the culture or not.
- fabian2k 4y agoChildren are not the property of their parents. I do see the attitude that parents should be able to fully control what content their children are exposed to as problematic. The school is full of education professionals, we're not in a random public space with who knows what kinds of materials. These are books that professionals already selected.
- recuter 4y agoThose eduction professionals sure failed you if you can't connect the dots on what happens when their politics differs from yours and the shoe is on the other foot. Children are certainly not the property of woke teachers either. Very amusing of you to trot out this line of defense about a book with an extremely simply message that seems to have gone over your head. > we're not in a random public space with who knows what kinds of materials. That's exactly where we are, unfortunately. Banning books is bad but god help kids who are at the mercy of teachers and people like you. Or the Bible thumpers. Two peas in a pod.
- fabian2k 4y agoSo what exactly is so objectionable in The Handmaids Tale that high school students should never be exposed to?
- recuter 4y agoAs a devout muslim it is considered haram. So says my imam, I don't know myself, I didn't read. Are you an Islamaphobe? You can raise your offspring on whatever books you wish but you cannot force anything on kids who are not yours. It is offensive to me. Your intolerance of my diverse viewpoint is very problematic. Perhaps we can agree to disagree and stick to teaching kids math and core subjects instead of imposing on each other otherwise one of us will have to switch schools.
- fabian2k 4y agoI'm from Germany, if not being able to remove a book from the school library riles you up that much, you probably would hate it here. Children are required to go to school, there is no home schooling possible. You also can't remove them from particular classes or content you find objectionable, even for religious reasons (in general, exceptions are rare as far as I understand). And I think it is very reasonable that kids have the right to an education and that the parents can't just remove stuff they disagree with.
- carlosjobim 4y agoSchooling was invented in Germany (Prussia) in order to churn out massive amounts of soldiers who would obey any order without questioning. It is no surprise that education continues to be very backwards in the country who invented the worst system.
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- yucky 4y agoWell at least here in the US, those "professionals" are failing hard at their jobs, with test scores falling year after year (beginning long before COVID). So it's understandable that parents have lost some faith in them.