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a) That line of thinking was eviscerated with Johnson and Kussenberg. b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to r

by s_dev 4y ago

a) That line of thinking was eviscerated with Johnson and Kussenberg. b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to realise. Clearly towing the line in favor of the Tory party. c) Plenty of nations have such advocacy groups.

pasabagi 4y ago
Bias is not binary. The establishment bias of the BBC (which I think does exist) doesn't carry over to coverage of a pogrom in Gujarat, because there's no establishment skin in that particular game.
gadders 4y ago
>>b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to realise. Clearly towing the line in favor of the Tory party. The BBC might not like the Labour Party (especially under Corbyn) but you can't deny it is 99% pro-left.
- vertis 4y ago
  I consider myself on the left and have spent a bit of time in the UK (Usually vote Labour/Green in Australia). Labour does seem fairly inept in the UK, not certain I could vote for them if given the right. Certainly Corbyn running around suggesting not arming Ukraine did nothing for my opinion on that front[0]. I agree though, that the BBC and the ABC in Australia both lean left as a rule, though still do their job of holding both to account. [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corb...
- iso1631 4y ago
  Waah Waah Waah the BBC is in bed with the tories Waah Waah Waah the BBC is massively left wing Same old same old. BBC Employees tend to be younger than average (as there are very few over 65s at the BBC), tend to be more educated that average (most jobs will require a college level degree), tend to be more metropolitan (most staff are employed major cities) Of course there are very few tory or leave voters amongst BBC Staff, probably between 1-in-4 and 1-in-3 if they are demographically representative [1] The question is how those views come across in the reporting, and generally it seems fairly balanced to me (I usually vote Lib Dem fwiw) [1] https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-why-my-2019-general-election-post-vote-poll/ https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-...
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Lio 4y ago
Nice use of "eviscerated" there, I like that. I don't think it's true though, as evidenced by the Tory media minister Nadine Dorries doing everything she could to de-fund the BBC for criticism of the Johnson government. She wouldn't do that if the BBC was a Tory mouthpiece under her control. Just saying that "a growing number of Britons are coming to realise" something doesn't really tell you much. That could be 3 people yesterday and 4 people today. The BBC criticises both sides of the political fence and both groups complain about it being biased against them. If it was truly biased to the Tories, people like Frankie Boyle wouldn't get BBC shows and Ian Blackford wouldn't regularly be quoted on the Today Programme or PMQs.

by s_dev 4y ago

pasabagi 4y ago

Bias is not binary. The establishment bias of the BBC (which I think does exist) doesn't carry over to coverage of a pogrom in Gujarat, because there's no establishment skin in that particular game.

gadders 4y ago

>>b) The BBC is biased against Labor and SNP as a growing number of Britons are coming to realise. Clearly towing the line in favor of the Tory party. The BBC might not like the Labour Party (especially under Corbyn) but you can't deny it is 99% pro-left.

vertis 4y ago
I consider myself on the left and have spent a bit of time in the UK (Usually vote Labour/Green in Australia). Labour does seem fairly inept in the UK, not certain I could vote for them if given the right. Certainly Corbyn running around suggesting not arming Ukraine did nothing for my opinion on that front[0]. I agree though, that the BBC and the ABC in Australia both lean left as a rule, though still do their job of holding both to account. [0]: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corb...
iso1631 4y ago
Waah Waah Waah the BBC is in bed with the tories Waah Waah Waah the BBC is massively left wing Same old same old. BBC Employees tend to be younger than average (as there are very few over 65s at the BBC), tend to be more educated that average (most jobs will require a college level degree), tend to be more metropolitan (most staff are employed major cities) Of course there are very few tory or leave voters amongst BBC Staff, probably between 1-in-4 and 1-in-3 if they are demographically representative [1] The question is how those views come across in the reporting, and generally it seems fairly balanced to me (I usually vote Lib Dem fwiw) [1] https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-why-my-2019-general-election-post-vote-poll/ https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-...
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Lio 4y ago

Nice use of "eviscerated" there, I like that. I don't think it's true though, as evidenced by the Tory media minister Nadine Dorries doing everything she could to de-fund the BBC for criticism of the Johnson government. She wouldn't do that if the BBC was a Tory mouthpiece under her control. Just saying that "a growing number of Britons are coming to realise" something doesn't really tell you much. That could be 3 people yesterday and 4 people today. The BBC criticises both sides of the political fence and both groups complain about it being biased against them. If it was truly biased to the Tories, people like Frankie Boyle wouldn't get BBC shows and Ian Blackford wouldn't regularly be quoted on the Today Programme or PMQs.