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Tories hate the BBC for being a hive of lefties, and slowly strangle its source of funds; Labour hate the BBC for being partisan to Tories, and will loudly shou

by toyg 4y ago

Tories hate the BBC for being a hive of lefties, and slowly strangle its source of funds; Labour hate the BBC for being partisan to Tories, and will loudly shout they're being ignored at every turn. Apart from a handful of highly-visible figures (Dimbleby, Kuenssberg, Neil), who are easily ignored, the truth is somewhat in the middle. Occasionally too much in the middle, like on Brexit, but in the middle nonetheless.

arp242 4y ago
The article is a bit long, rambling, and rankly not very well written, but it's definitely not a "Tory complains left-wing bias in BBC"-type of article. Example: "And here we arrive at a truly awesome, structural bias that is barely guessed at by journalists themselves. The fact is that it is simply understood by ‘mainstream’ media at election time that foreign policy – especially our leaders’ high crimes – is somehow unaccountably, inexplicably, irrationally, not an issue the electorate need trouble its pretty little head about. Even after the devastating, illegal 2003 invasion-occupation of Iraq, with the crime still fully underway, foreign policy barely featured as an election issue in 2005. Corbyn was presented, relentlessly, as a moral monster, as a threat to humanity on the basis of miniscule, in fact non-existent, evidence. But Johnson and the Tories, and Corbyn’s Blairite enemies, escaped all scrutiny – for the simple reason that their very real crimes have been declared a non-issue by an awesomely corrupt system of media corporations serving the power of which they are an integral part."
- toyg 4y ago
  Those passages are exemplary of why I'd struggle to take anything seriously coming from that site. A number of largely baseless statements are exposed with breathless language.
berdario 4y ago
> the truth is somewhat in the middle True, but what we're witnessing now is a middle, not that middle... (moreover, if both Labour and Tories feel offended, that doesn't mean that the BBC is actually being fair in doing its job, https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-offensive-truth https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-offensive-truth ) Anyhow, thinking that the centrist position is also somehow more representative and enlightned is a fallacy that has been already expounded: https://nick-barlow.medium.com/the-centrist-fallacy-43434642cb00 https://nick-barlow.medium.com/the-centrist-fallacy-43434642... See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4nvCVAGw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4nvCVAGw0

by toyg 4y ago

arp242 4y ago

The article is a bit long, rambling, and rankly not very well written, but it's definitely not a "Tory complains left-wing bias in BBC"-type of article. Example: "And here we arrive at a truly awesome, structural bias that is barely guessed at by journalists themselves. The fact is that it is simply understood by ‘mainstream’ media at election time that foreign policy – especially our leaders’ high crimes – is somehow unaccountably, inexplicably, irrationally, not an issue the electorate need trouble its pretty little head about. Even after the devastating, illegal 2003 invasion-occupation of Iraq, with the crime still fully underway, foreign policy barely featured as an election issue in 2005. Corbyn was presented, relentlessly, as a moral monster, as a threat to humanity on the basis of miniscule, in fact non-existent, evidence. But Johnson and the Tories, and Corbyn’s Blairite enemies, escaped all scrutiny – for the simple reason that their very real crimes have been declared a non-issue by an awesomely corrupt system of media corporations serving the power of which they are an integral part."

toyg 4y ago
Those passages are exemplary of why I'd struggle to take anything seriously coming from that site. A number of largely baseless statements are exposed with breathless language.

berdario 4y ago

> the truth is somewhat in the middle True, but what we're witnessing now is a middle, not that middle... (moreover, if both Labour and Tories feel offended, that doesn't mean that the BBC is actually being fair in doing its job, https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-offensive-truth https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-offensive-truth ) Anyhow, thinking that the centrist position is also somehow more representative and enlightned is a fallacy that has been already expounded: https://nick-barlow.medium.com/the-centrist-fallacy-43434642cb00 https://nick-barlow.medium.com/the-centrist-fallacy-43434642... See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4nvCVAGw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4nvCVAGw0