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I Germany normal people get raided by a SWAT Team if they write "[Politician X] is a penis" on Twitter[1] and this was just some 3 grade local politician. So I

by Lionga 4y ago

I Germany normal people get raided by a SWAT Team if they write "[Politician X] is a penis" on Twitter[1] and this was just some 3 grade local politician. So I guess this amount of corruption between politicians and police is available to all politicians in germany not just PMs which seems much more fair. [1] https://www.nw.de/nachrichten/nachrichten/23086941_Aufschrei-nach-Hausdurchsuchung-wegen-Pimmel-Tweet-gegen-Politiker.html https://www.nw.de/nachrichten/nachrichten/23086941_Aufschrei...

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krisoft 4y ago
> Germany normal people get raided by a SWAT Team if they write "[Politician X] is a penis" on Twitter Did the BBC publish anything like that? Do the German police raid you if you write “[Politician X] is corrupt”? Don’t get me wrong I prefer to live in a world where anyone can debase themselves by throwing insults at anyone, but I don’t see the paralels with the BBC raid.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Do you know the answers to these two questions, or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making? > Don’t get me wrong You haven't said anything to be wrong about.
  - krisoft 4y ago
    > or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making? Yes? There is no allegation that the BBC called anyone a penis. I don’t have proof that i can cite because how do you proove a negative? I can prove that there are media who called a German politican corrupt.[1] I cannot prove that they haven’t raided them, all I can say is that if they did we haven’t heard about it. > You haven't said anything to be wrong about. And yet you understood me, didn’t you? 1: totally random article calling one german politican corrupt https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-conservative-politician-alfred-sauter-bribery-accusations/amp/ https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-conservative-politic...
mtmail 4y ago
It wasn't a SWAT team. The politician is minister of interior of the state and thus head of the police. He formally filed a police report about an insult, that is indeed available to anybody. Still a local scandal, his name is now associated with being a penis. IMHO unrelated to the BBC documentary (freedom of press vs freedom to insult somebody on social media).
Y_Y 4y ago
Andy Grote was the penis, in case you were wondering.
- KingOfCoders 4y ago
  I don't think penis is the best translation, prick or weenie would be better.
KingOfCoders 4y ago
It wasn't a SWAT team but a regulary search and a court decided later the search was illegal. Let's see if an Indian court decides if this is illegal. If you're concerned about Germany, it ranks #13 in World Press Freedom Index (it slipped mostly because of attacks against the press by left and right extremists during COVID) and India ranks #150 (out of 180).

by Lionga 4y ago

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krisoft 4y ago

> Germany normal people get raided by a SWAT Team if they write "[Politician X] is a penis" on Twitter Did the BBC publish anything like that? Do the German police raid you if you write “[Politician X] is corrupt”? Don’t get me wrong I prefer to live in a world where anyone can debase themselves by throwing insults at anyone, but I don’t see the paralels with the BBC raid.

pessimizer 4y ago
Do you know the answers to these two questions, or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making? > Don’t get me wrong You haven't said anything to be wrong about.
- krisoft 4y ago
  > or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making? Yes? There is no allegation that the BBC called anyone a penis. I don’t have proof that i can cite because how do you proove a negative? I can prove that there are media who called a German politican corrupt.[1] I cannot prove that they haven’t raided them, all I can say is that if they did we haven’t heard about it. > You haven't said anything to be wrong about. And yet you understood me, didn’t you? 1: totally random article calling one german politican corrupt https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-conservative-politician-alfred-sauter-bribery-accusations/amp/ https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-conservative-politic...

mtmail 4y ago

It wasn't a SWAT team. The politician is minister of interior of the state and thus head of the police. He formally filed a police report about an insult, that is indeed available to anybody. Still a local scandal, his name is now associated with being a penis. IMHO unrelated to the BBC documentary (freedom of press vs freedom to insult somebody on social media).

Y_Y 4y ago

Andy Grote was the penis, in case you were wondering.

KingOfCoders 4y ago
I don't think penis is the best translation, prick or weenie would be better.

KingOfCoders 4y ago

It wasn't a SWAT team but a regulary search and a court decided later the search was illegal. Let's see if an Indian court decides if this is illegal. If you're concerned about Germany, it ranks #13 in World Press Freedom Index (it slipped mostly because of attacks against the press by left and right extremists during COVID) and India ranks #150 (out of 180).