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Smells like another piece of their usual Embrace, Extend, Extinguish tactics. So sad seeing people being so naive buying everything these tech feudalists say.

by jlpcsl 4y ago

jakogut 4y ago
That's one of my big problems with WSL, and Microsoft's contributions to open source projects like Mesa. Their Dozen driver implements Vulkan on top of D3D12, a proprietary API only available officially on Windows. This is useless for anybody not using their proprietary software. In my opinion, it should never have been accepted without an officially supported open source backend. I don't care if it's in the form of a Linux library, BSD, whatever, if it only adds value to your proprietary product, why should the open source community be shouldered with the burden of maintenance? Especially when _using_ said functionality locks users to your product. Why didn't they use Vulkan for a backend, which is portable, well-supported, and open, and use and contribute to existing high quality drivers on top of it? There's only one reasonable answer, they're not interested in portability, working with the community, or omni-win-win scenarios.
mouse_ 4y ago
I was perfectly happy using mingw with gcc in my build environment to create nifty little graphical exes with raylib. Now, Windows Defender likes to flag anything built with mingw as a virus, and the official answer is "Just use WSL!". This isn't a problem for me personally, as I trust my own software, but it's absolutely unacceptable if I wanted to ship something on itch.io or Steam or the like. I suppose I've been extinguished for now, and will probably just start building to html5/webassembly, but I'm 110% onto their tricks.
phendrenad2 4y ago
Thank goodness. Linux is terrible and it needs a fresh start. Maybe if WSL kills it we can start over fresh.

19 ms·

Smells like another piece of their usual Embrace, Extend, Extinguish tactics. So sad seeing people being so naive buying everything these tech feudalists say.

by jlpcsl 4y ago

Smells like another piece of their usual Embrace, Extend, Extinguish tactics. So sad seeing people being so naive buying everything these tech feudalists say.

jakogut 4y ago
That's one of my big problems with WSL, and Microsoft's contributions to open source projects like Mesa. Their Dozen driver implements Vulkan on top of D3D12, a proprietary API only available officially on Windows. This is useless for anybody not using their proprietary software. In my opinion, it should never have been accepted without an officially supported open source backend. I don't care if it's in the form of a Linux library, BSD, whatever, if it only adds value to your proprietary product, why should the open source community be shouldered with the burden of maintenance? Especially when _using_ said functionality locks users to your product. Why didn't they use Vulkan for a backend, which is portable, well-supported, and open, and use and contribute to existing high quality drivers on top of it? There's only one reasonable answer, they're not interested in portability, working with the community, or omni-win-win scenarios.
mouse_ 4y ago
I was perfectly happy using mingw with gcc in my build environment to create nifty little graphical exes with raylib. Now, Windows Defender likes to flag anything built with mingw as a virus, and the official answer is "Just use WSL!". This isn't a problem for me personally, as I trust my own software, but it's absolutely unacceptable if I wanted to ship something on itch.io or Steam or the like. I suppose I've been extinguished for now, and will probably just start building to html5/webassembly, but I'm 110% onto their tricks.
phendrenad2 4y ago
Thank goodness. Linux is terrible and it needs a fresh start. Maybe if WSL kills it we can start over fresh.