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Matrix: good specs and protocol , but product wise , it offer nothing new compared to RocketChat , Slack , Mattermost . High noise low signal. Zulip is the ac

by v3ss0n 4y ago

Matrix: good specs and protocol , but product wise , it offer nothing new compared to RocketChat , Slack , Mattermost . High noise low signal. Zulip is the actual game changer in innovation of the conversation flow and makes the team actually more productive. Topic focused conversation flow make things actually productive and it made us a lot more productive. And Zulip now supports public mode , look at official rust community and zulip's chat.zulip.org . It drives collaboration.

esperent 4y ago
I've been using RocketChat for a while and I like it, but there definitely room for improvement. So I just spent the last ten minutes looking up Zulip. I didn't find anything to suggest that there's much difference between this and other open source messaging projects. Google searches just turn up the usual blogspam. What have I missed? Could you share a review or something that goes into the difference?
- v3ss0n 4y ago
  - It is like combination of forums and Chat , every messages needs a topic - Topic can be organized easily and smart - Full markdown + Topic + Back referencing topics so you can use it creatively , a a chatroom + knowledgeable system. - Well architect , well documented , all architecture decisions are documented , code is very readable and modifiable (i modified it to make it work like a realtime project management system and we ditched odoo , jira ) . Here is what zulip with topics look like : https://imgur.com/a/D0JINo1 https://imgur.com/a/D0JINo1 Here is how we modified and patched it to become a realtime project management system. https://imgur.com/a/9hM0gwy https://imgur.com/a/9hM0gwy https://imgur.com/a/LB2teYl https://imgur.com/a/LB2teYl https://imgur.com/YOWDNg7 https://imgur.com/YOWDNg7
  - esperent 4y ago
    Ok that looks interesting, thanks for taking the time to share. I actually think that interface would be contrary to my use case which is a chat system for mostly non-technical staff. The closer to what they're already familiar with the better and Rocketchat works great for that. I think Zulip would be confusing. I'll file Zulip away in case I'm doing a more tech focused project in future.
    - v3ss0n 4y ago
      It's more tech focused, for no tech, matrix is fine

by v3ss0n 4y ago

esperent 4y ago

I've been using RocketChat for a while and I like it, but there definitely room for improvement. So I just spent the last ten minutes looking up Zulip. I didn't find anything to suggest that there's much difference between this and other open source messaging projects. Google searches just turn up the usual blogspam. What have I missed? Could you share a review or something that goes into the difference?

v3ss0n 4y ago
- It is like combination of forums and Chat , every messages needs a topic - Topic can be organized easily and smart - Full markdown + Topic + Back referencing topics so you can use it creatively , a a chatroom + knowledgeable system. - Well architect , well documented , all architecture decisions are documented , code is very readable and modifiable (i modified it to make it work like a realtime project management system and we ditched odoo , jira ) . Here is what zulip with topics look like : https://imgur.com/a/D0JINo1 https://imgur.com/a/D0JINo1 Here is how we modified and patched it to become a realtime project management system. https://imgur.com/a/9hM0gwy https://imgur.com/a/9hM0gwy https://imgur.com/a/LB2teYl https://imgur.com/a/LB2teYl https://imgur.com/YOWDNg7 https://imgur.com/YOWDNg7
- esperent 4y ago
  Ok that looks interesting, thanks for taking the time to share. I actually think that interface would be contrary to my use case which is a chat system for mostly non-technical staff. The closer to what they're already familiar with the better and Rocketchat works great for that. I think Zulip would be confusing. I'll file Zulip away in case I'm doing a more tech focused project in future.
  - v3ss0n 4y ago
    It's more tech focused, for no tech, matrix is fine