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Tableau has been killed by Salesforce

43 points by justinzollars 4y ago

bdcravens 4y ago
The article paints a picture of a spunky tight-knit startup operating as a family, but they had a headcount of over 4000 and have enterprise-level pricing ($42/user/month for authoring) in a world were many open source alternatives exist.
- panda888888 4y ago
  Tableau's biggest competitor is PowerBI, not anything open source.
  - arnon 4y ago
    Excel (incumbent), and Looker (for anyone on Google)
    - panda888888 4y ago
      Okay, but neither of those are open source...
  - bdcravens 4y ago
    OSS BI like Redash, Superset, Metabase, etc. Low code solutions like AppSmith.
    - foxbee 4y ago
      Also retool, Budibase, glide and others
      - bdcravens 4y ago
        I don't think Retool and Glide are open source, but they are good alternatives to Tableau's pricing.
EdwardDiego 4y ago
> Tableau workers call themselves the #DataFam. The name has carried a double meaning, describing both a love of data and also camaraderie among family members. Yeah... a workplace "family" is about as much of a family as a Mafia crew. As soon as push comes to shove, someone's getting buried in the Pine Barrens.
- rendall 4y ago
  This is unusually family-like, though: After the layoffs started last month, many past and current Tableau employees connected online to offer help and support to those affected.
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    I'll accept "children with abusive foster parents" as a better analogy.
    - deadly_syn 4y ago
      I can totally see this. I'm friends with people from previous jobs where we joke out entire friendship is built around trauma bonding!
- dilyevsky 4y ago
  Why not #DataFarm?
keeganpoppen 4y ago
...in classic salesforce style...
anntho896 4y ago
That's wild. Tableau was THE thing in dashboards not 5 years ago.
- prettychill 4y ago
  What took over?
  - NoboruWataya 4y ago
    In my experience PowerBI seems to have had wide adoption. Not sure if it represents a better value proposition in itself or if MS were just able to integrate it with their other products which are already dominant in corporate environments.
    - kjs3 4y ago
      Microsoft made PowerBI a really cheap "would you like fries with that" purchase for enterprise E3 licenses and above, and really undercut Tableau's cost (I recall it's less than half the per user price). So a lot of corporate expense management types came down with "why would we pay for 2 tools that do (mostly) the same thing", and Tableau doesn't get renewed.
  - panda888888 4y ago
    Mostly PowerBI, plus a little bit of the "operational analytics" movement, which is essentially an anti-dashboarding phenomenon. Example operational analytics tools that aren't dashboards but that can be used serve a similar purpose are Get Census, Hightouch, and Grouparoo.

43 points by justinzollars 4y ago

The article paints a picture of a spunky tight-knit startup operating as a family, but they had a headcount of over 4000 and have enterprise-level pricing ($42/user/month for authoring) in a world were many open source alternatives exist.

panda888888 4y ago
Tableau's biggest competitor is PowerBI, not anything open source.
- arnon 4y ago
  Excel (incumbent), and Looker (for anyone on Google)
  - panda888888 4y ago
    Okay, but neither of those are open source...
- bdcravens 4y ago
  OSS BI like Redash, Superset, Metabase, etc. Low code solutions like AppSmith.
  - foxbee 4y ago
    Also retool, Budibase, glide and others
    - bdcravens 4y ago
      I don't think Retool and Glide are open source, but they are good alternatives to Tableau's pricing.

EdwardDiego 4y ago

> Tableau workers call themselves the #DataFam. The name has carried a double meaning, describing both a love of data and also camaraderie among family members. Yeah... a workplace "family" is about as much of a family as a Mafia crew. As soon as push comes to shove, someone's getting buried in the Pine Barrens.

rendall 4y ago
This is unusually family-like, though: After the layoffs started last month, many past and current Tableau employees connected online to offer help and support to those affected.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  I'll accept "children with abusive foster parents" as a better analogy.
  - deadly_syn 4y ago
    I can totally see this. I'm friends with people from previous jobs where we joke out entire friendship is built around trauma bonding!
dilyevsky 4y ago
Why not #DataFarm?

keeganpoppen 4y ago

...in classic salesforce style...

anntho896 4y ago

That's wild. Tableau was THE thing in dashboards not 5 years ago.

prettychill 4y ago
What took over?
- NoboruWataya 4y ago
  In my experience PowerBI seems to have had wide adoption. Not sure if it represents a better value proposition in itself or if MS were just able to integrate it with their other products which are already dominant in corporate environments.
  - kjs3 4y ago
    Microsoft made PowerBI a really cheap "would you like fries with that" purchase for enterprise E3 licenses and above, and really undercut Tableau's cost (I recall it's less than half the per user price). So a lot of corporate expense management types came down with "why would we pay for 2 tools that do (mostly) the same thing", and Tableau doesn't get renewed.
- panda888888 4y ago
  Mostly PowerBI, plus a little bit of the "operational analytics" movement, which is essentially an anti-dashboarding phenomenon. Example operational analytics tools that aren't dashboards but that can be used serve a similar purpose are Get Census, Hightouch, and Grouparoo.