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In the paper it is laid out carefully. Said simply: Every watt of energy that goes to creating bullets is a watt not being used on creating and distributing nec

In the paper it is laid out carefully. Said simply: Every watt of energy that goes to creating bullets is a watt not being used on creating and distributing necessary goods to those in the most need. That is how it is fundamentally destructive - The pie is fixed to the productive capacity of the planet. Every beanie baby created crowds out healthcare in rural missouri. The workable system is one where we memetically return to sharing economies via example and not coercive force. I think it's going to take centuries of non-violent mutual aid and cooperative organizations that do not follow into the trap of strict excludability, for us to get back to peace and health. These organizations and societies exist at small scales and often temporally at large scale (Think Sept 12th etc...), we just need more people to do it all the time everywhere. That's actually kinda all we need to do. Unfortunately we have 12000 years of trauma we're all reacting to so it's layers upon layers of structural and emotional fear.

MichaelZuo 4y ago
Huh? None of that addresses how to allocate actually scarce things.
- AndrewKemendo 4y ago
  Again, I don't give a solution because that is not within the scope of the paper. Can you come up with a solution?
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    > I don't give a solution because that is not within the scope of the paper. Are we reading the same paper titled "The Myth of scarcity and its threats to human society" by Andrew Kemendo? There are five 'Propositions' enumerated that concern the scarcity, or alleged non-scarcity, of resources. And as we've discussed some resources, desired by many, truly are profoundly scarce.
    - AndrewKemendo 4y ago
      Those things aren't scarce it's a complete fabrication - like Diamonds. It's artificial scarcity People desire non-mandatory goods (you don't need them to live in health until old age) that are artificially scarce (could be produced at a higher rate than they are but are not because producers require a capital return) because they have more resources than they need. Stray Kids "Official lightsticks" are "scarce." [1] Nobody on the planet needs an official stray kids lightstick for health, safety, reproductive success etc... The creation of the lightstick by a marketing manager induces a fear of being left out (anxiety) of being part of the cool kids (read: rich kids) in order to make more money for the band and the supporting businesses of the band. The creation, marketing, production and purchasing of the stray kids lightstick - which will eventually wind up in a landfill - is a net drain on the overall productive capacity of Humanity. Labor and capital that is not being used to provide someone else in REAL deprivation actual necessity goods - because the imbalance is real You seem to miss the key point: As a species, we have enough of everything we need to survive and thrive, but too many of the wrong people have too much of the resources. I'm just here to tell you it's fucked, someone else can figure out how to distribute it all without violence. Read the paper again [1]https://www.subkshop.com/products/stray-kids-official-light-stick https://www.subkshop.com/products/stray-kids-official-light-...
      - MichaelZuo 4y ago
        What does this have to do with the allocation of beachfront property and the electromagnetic spectrum? You need to allocate them somehow, it's not credible to suggest people won't compete for desirable goods. They exist regardless of the specific form of human society, or indeed even if there isn't a society at all.

MichaelZuo 4y ago

Huh? None of that addresses how to allocate actually scarce things.

AndrewKemendo 4y ago
Again, I don't give a solution because that is not within the scope of the paper. Can you come up with a solution?
- MichaelZuo 4y ago
  > I don't give a solution because that is not within the scope of the paper. Are we reading the same paper titled "The Myth of scarcity and its threats to human society" by Andrew Kemendo? There are five 'Propositions' enumerated that concern the scarcity, or alleged non-scarcity, of resources. And as we've discussed some resources, desired by many, truly are profoundly scarce.
  - AndrewKemendo 4y ago
    Those things aren't scarce it's a complete fabrication - like Diamonds. It's artificial scarcity People desire non-mandatory goods (you don't need them to live in health until old age) that are artificially scarce (could be produced at a higher rate than they are but are not because producers require a capital return) because they have more resources than they need. Stray Kids "Official lightsticks" are "scarce." [1] Nobody on the planet needs an official stray kids lightstick for health, safety, reproductive success etc... The creation of the lightstick by a marketing manager induces a fear of being left out (anxiety) of being part of the cool kids (read: rich kids) in order to make more money for the band and the supporting businesses of the band. The creation, marketing, production and purchasing of the stray kids lightstick - which will eventually wind up in a landfill - is a net drain on the overall productive capacity of Humanity. Labor and capital that is not being used to provide someone else in REAL deprivation actual necessity goods - because the imbalance is real You seem to miss the key point: As a species, we have enough of everything we need to survive and thrive, but too many of the wrong people have too much of the resources. I'm just here to tell you it's fucked, someone else can figure out how to distribute it all without violence. Read the paper again [1]https://www.subkshop.com/products/stray-kids-official-light-stick https://www.subkshop.com/products/stray-kids-official-light-...
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      What does this have to do with the allocation of beachfront property and the electromagnetic spectrum? You need to allocate them somehow, it's not credible to suggest people won't compete for desirable goods. They exist regardless of the specific form of human society, or indeed even if there isn't a society at all.