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I don't live in SF and don't have a home to rent, yet I just don't understand the rationale behind this law. I absolutely support rent control and various othe

by yumraj 4y ago

I don't live in SF and don't have a home to rent, yet I just don't understand the rationale behind this law. I absolutely support rent control and various other provisions, but there could be many reasons for a person not wanting to rent. Next, will I be forced to rent my car to those who don't have one, or forced to rent rooms in my house if not enough people in my household etc. This is a very slippery slope. NOTE: I agree with the intent of what this seems to want to do, but not the implementation.

AdrianB1 4y ago
You will own nothing and you will be happy /s.
HDThoreaun 4y ago
The housing problem in SF is entirely due to lack of supply. There is a limited amount of land in SF, you can't just go and build more land and because of that it is very difficult to solve the supply problem. Disincentivizing vacancy is one method of increasing housing supply. If you don't want to rent your property you should sell it to someone who is.
- yumraj 4y ago
  > If you don't want to rent your property you should sell it to someone who is. What if I'm old and don't want the hassle of renters OR perhaps my house is not in a condition that it can be rented without substantial investment in fixing it which I can't afford right now OR am just keeping the house to sell later to pay for my retirement or to give to my kids as inheritance OR any number of reasons. I shouldn't be forced to pay a tax on top of the property tax nor should I be forced to sell it.
  - HDThoreaun 4y ago
    Yes you should. Your actions are causing considerable harm to society. It is completely reasonable to use taxes to incentivize actions that improve society. Improperly utilizing high value land is very harmful, we don't have to just sit here and let you do it without consequences.
    - yumraj 4y ago
      Based on this argument, perhaps we should eliminate private ownership of all homes. That will bring maximum benefit to the society, no? Wait, I think communist countries already tried that and failed. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree and move on with our lives.
      - HDThoreaun 4y ago
        Private ownership is immensely beneficial to society as it encourages investment. Incentives work.
        yumraj 4y ago
        Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my comment above..

by yumraj 4y ago

AdrianB1 4y ago

You will own nothing and you will be happy /s.

HDThoreaun 4y ago

The housing problem in SF is entirely due to lack of supply. There is a limited amount of land in SF, you can't just go and build more land and because of that it is very difficult to solve the supply problem. Disincentivizing vacancy is one method of increasing housing supply. If you don't want to rent your property you should sell it to someone who is.

yumraj 4y ago
> If you don't want to rent your property you should sell it to someone who is. What if I'm old and don't want the hassle of renters OR perhaps my house is not in a condition that it can be rented without substantial investment in fixing it which I can't afford right now OR am just keeping the house to sell later to pay for my retirement or to give to my kids as inheritance OR any number of reasons. I shouldn't be forced to pay a tax on top of the property tax nor should I be forced to sell it.
- HDThoreaun 4y ago
  Yes you should. Your actions are causing considerable harm to society. It is completely reasonable to use taxes to incentivize actions that improve society. Improperly utilizing high value land is very harmful, we don't have to just sit here and let you do it without consequences.
  - yumraj 4y ago
    Based on this argument, perhaps we should eliminate private ownership of all homes. That will bring maximum benefit to the society, no? Wait, I think communist countries already tried that and failed. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree and move on with our lives.
    - HDThoreaun 4y ago
      Private ownership is immensely beneficial to society as it encourages investment. Incentives work.
      - yumraj 4y ago
        Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my comment above..