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So they compromised FOV for a lighter headset. Not a great choice IMO. From using countless headsets, I can say the number one thing that distracts from presenc

So they compromised FOV for a lighter headset. Not a great choice IMO. From using countless headsets, I can say the number one thing that distracts from presence is low FOV; far more so than bulkiness or wires. And presence is the goal above all else.

modeless 4y ago
Presence is not the only thing that matters for VR, once you get past short demos. Comfort is actually huge and this is clearly going to be the most comfortable headset available by a long way (once the hard strap is available). The spec sheet FOV may not be the absolute largest available, but it doesn't seem that compromised. FOV is tricky to measure and just looking at numbers to compare two headsets may not give the whole picture (pun intended). The custom fit and prescription optics allowing the lenses to be at the optimal position for your eyes without needing glasses may make the FOV better in practice than other headsets with a larger theoretical peak FOV which isn't achieved due to imperfect fit. Norm from Tested[1] and Brad Lynch[2] are two of the most knowledgeable and experienced VR reviewers out there and they've both used it and did not report that FOV was noticeably worse than Quest. The clarity of the optics, the resolution, and the contrast ratio will be much better and could easily make up for a couple of degrees of FOV. I'm surprised I haven't seen people talking about using this as a monitor replacement for laptops or desktops. People talked about it for Quest Pro but this has significantly more pixels per degree and is much more portable (for 3DOF use at least) and comfortable, which could address the biggest issues with Quest Pro for that use case. I would definitely buy this over Quest Pro if I was interested in monitor replacement. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3k0T1mvahY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3k0T1mvahY [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvih_ljVc_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvih_ljVc_w
- glumreaper 4y ago
  For monitor replacements there are already dedicated devices. Lenovo ThinkReality glasses for example: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkrealitya3 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkrealitya3
  - bbor 4y ago
    I’m confused - you seem to have linked to a set of AR glasses? Ive been waiting eagerly for professional VR so hoping that you posted the wrong link and Lenovo already has it!
    - modeless 4y ago
      Professional VR/AR has been available. Varjo is the standard. Rumor is that Apple has been using them to prototype their software before their own hardware availability.
  - modeless 4y ago
    47 degree diagonal square FOV and 1080p resolution make this an entirely different, and frankly uninteresting, kind of device.
- lostsock 4y ago
  FWIW, ThrillSeekerVR who helped who provided some unpaid feedback on the development of this headset, also mentions in his video that he personally measured the FOV as higher than the specs list and quotes the CEO of Bigscreen as saying that he plans to "underpromise and overdeliver" on that front: https://youtu.be/mieWJ9vupqw?t=183 https://youtu.be/mieWJ9vupqw?t=183 Screenshot from above video: https://imgur.com/0JVeyRC https://imgur.com/0JVeyRC
jayd16 4y ago
Tethered, base station tracked, and no top strap so all the weight is on your face... Maybe it pays off but I'm not so sure.

modeless 4y ago

Presence is not the only thing that matters for VR, once you get past short demos. Comfort is actually huge and this is clearly going to be the most comfortable headset available by a long way (once the hard strap is available). The spec sheet FOV may not be the absolute largest available, but it doesn't seem that compromised. FOV is tricky to measure and just looking at numbers to compare two headsets may not give the whole picture (pun intended). The custom fit and prescription optics allowing the lenses to be at the optimal position for your eyes without needing glasses may make the FOV better in practice than other headsets with a larger theoretical peak FOV which isn't achieved due to imperfect fit. Norm from Tested[1] and Brad Lynch[2] are two of the most knowledgeable and experienced VR reviewers out there and they've both used it and did not report that FOV was noticeably worse than Quest. The clarity of the optics, the resolution, and the contrast ratio will be much better and could easily make up for a couple of degrees of FOV. I'm surprised I haven't seen people talking about using this as a monitor replacement for laptops or desktops. People talked about it for Quest Pro but this has significantly more pixels per degree and is much more portable (for 3DOF use at least) and comfortable, which could address the biggest issues with Quest Pro for that use case. I would definitely buy this over Quest Pro if I was interested in monitor replacement. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3k0T1mvahY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3k0T1mvahY [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvih_ljVc_w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvih_ljVc_w

glumreaper 4y ago
For monitor replacements there are already dedicated devices. Lenovo ThinkReality glasses for example: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkrealitya3 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinkrealitya3
- bbor 4y ago
  I’m confused - you seem to have linked to a set of AR glasses? Ive been waiting eagerly for professional VR so hoping that you posted the wrong link and Lenovo already has it!
  - modeless 4y ago
    Professional VR/AR has been available. Varjo is the standard. Rumor is that Apple has been using them to prototype their software before their own hardware availability.
- modeless 4y ago
  47 degree diagonal square FOV and 1080p resolution make this an entirely different, and frankly uninteresting, kind of device.
lostsock 4y ago
FWIW, ThrillSeekerVR who helped who provided some unpaid feedback on the development of this headset, also mentions in his video that he personally measured the FOV as higher than the specs list and quotes the CEO of Bigscreen as saying that he plans to "underpromise and overdeliver" on that front: https://youtu.be/mieWJ9vupqw?t=183 https://youtu.be/mieWJ9vupqw?t=183 Screenshot from above video: https://imgur.com/0JVeyRC https://imgur.com/0JVeyRC

jayd16 4y ago

Tethered, base station tracked, and no top strap so all the weight is on your face... Maybe it pays off but I'm not so sure.