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> If a dev releases his work free-as-in-libre and/or free-as-in-beer, they don't get to complain if the donations are "insufficient". Of course they get to com
by linkdd 4y ago
> If a dev releases his work free-as-in-libre and/or free-as-in-beer, they don't get to complain if the donations are "insufficient".
Of course they get to complain. Complaining and doing nothing to change the situation is what's problematic.
Doing work without reward, even if you did not expect any in the first place, can be soul-sucking, and it is totally normal to complain about it.
You don't do FOSS for the recognition/glory, but complaining about the hatred, hypocrisy, and complete lack of respect of the industry towards FOSS is normal.
The backlash he got after he "dared" ask for help was completely uncalled for. I'd even say this, it's the user who does not get to complain, let's remind everyone of what most FOSS licenses include:
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.
You get a message during `npm install` from the dev asking for funding and a job? Tough shit, you don't get to complain because you're not paying him.
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- Dalewyn 4y ago>Of course they get to complain. No, they don't. They specifically waived any compensation by licensing their work for free-as-in-libre and/or free-as-in-beer. If they want to have social and legal standing to complain, they should have demanded compensation upfront. >You don't do FOSS for the recognition/glory, but complaining about the hatred, hypocrisy, and complete lack of respect of the industry towards FOSS is normal. FOSS doesn't ask for money. -> Users proceed to pay no money, because why would they? -> FOSS is pissed they don't get money. This whole saga is hypocritical on FOSS's part. If devs want money they should demand money with appropriate licensing. It really isn't hard, it's dead simple. Users and companies are happy to pay up if you can get them to sign the contract. >I'd even say this, it's the user who does not get to complain, ... You get a message during `npm install` from the dev asking for funding and a job? Tough shit, you don't get to complain because you're not paying him. Absolutely. Users don't get to complain about something they got for free.
- kodt 4y agoSurely you can complain about receiving hate mail and unsolicited vitriol.
- Dalewyn 4y agoAbsolutely, that bullshit is 300% unwarranted regardless the circumstances. I'm arguing that complaining about lack of compensation is stupid and hypocritical after you have explicitly waived such compensations.