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Unlike GitLab, Matrix is not open core, and so isn't Element or Synapse, they properly and fully open source. Also, Element is just some JavaScript in your bro

Unlike GitLab, Matrix is not open core, and so isn't Element or Synapse, they properly and fully open source. Also, Element is just some JavaScript in your browser or electron shell, there's no need to self-host it really, although you can (just put some HTML+CSS+JS up on a webserver) — you want to self-host Synapse, and that's trivial to do (there's a Debian package, a Docker image and so on).

benatkin 4y ago
> Matrix is not open core I'm comparing Element. > and so isn't Element It sure seems to be. Look at the red X's and green checkmarks in the comparison: https://element.io/pricing https://element.io/pricing There are different opinions on what Open Core means though.
- ensignavenger 4y ago
  I think that comparison is just heir hosted offerings, not what the software (open source code) supports.
- cp9 4y ago
  https://github.com/vector-im/element-web https://github.com/vector-im/element-web
- ptman 4y ago
  Some of their bridges (e.g. Teams bridge) aren't open source. But those are separate software projects. AFAIK synapse and element aren't open core but fully open source (with apache licensing). This is in fact a bit of a problem wrt. funding: https://matrix.org/blog/2022/12/01/funding-matrix-via-the-matrix-org-foundation https://matrix.org/blog/2022/12/01/funding-matrix-via-the-ma...
progval 4y ago
Scalar (the integration manager) is not open source [1] (though there was some effort to reverse-engineer its protocol [2]); and some of their anti-abuse scripts aren't public [3] [1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260 https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260 [2] https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/docs/reference/scalar_client_api.md https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/do... [3] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557

benatkin 4y ago

> Matrix is not open core I'm comparing Element. > and so isn't Element It sure seems to be. Look at the red X's and green checkmarks in the comparison: https://element.io/pricing https://element.io/pricing There are different opinions on what Open Core means though.

ensignavenger 4y ago
I think that comparison is just heir hosted offerings, not what the software (open source code) supports.
cp9 4y ago
https://github.com/vector-im/element-web https://github.com/vector-im/element-web
ptman 4y ago
Some of their bridges (e.g. Teams bridge) aren't open source. But those are separate software projects. AFAIK synapse and element aren't open core but fully open source (with apache licensing). This is in fact a bit of a problem wrt. funding: https://matrix.org/blog/2022/12/01/funding-matrix-via-the-matrix-org-foundation https://matrix.org/blog/2022/12/01/funding-matrix-via-the-ma...

progval 4y ago

Scalar (the integration manager) is not open source [1] (though there was some effort to reverse-engineer its protocol [2]); and some of their anti-abuse scripts aren't public [3] [1] https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260 https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/260 [2] https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/docs/reference/scalar_client_api.md https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-dimension/blob/master/do... [3] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.org/issues/557