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As a teenager I used to stay up until 2-3am watching movies on my ipod touch - which had a ludicrously small screen by todays standards. I'm in favor of moving

by tmpz22 4y ago

As a teenager I used to stay up until 2-3am watching movies on my ipod touch - which had a ludicrously small screen by todays standards. I'm in favor of moving back start times but we should also better study and educate on the consequences of bad personal habits.

dobbysfirstsock 4y ago
I 100% agree. I'm unfortunately not an expert in the field but over the years I've seen "studies" that are very flawed or impossible to replicate. I'm all for some experiments for those willing... perhaps it would overall increase the amount of sleep students get... but for some I feel it would completely wreck their schedules. This is anecdotal but when I went to live with my grandparents for a summer, I hated every minute of it. They lived on a farm with no wifi. By the last week or two though, I realized I sorta enjoyed it. I was out like a light by 10 pm every day. I was getting more exercise etc. I had no reliable reason to stay up past 10 pm and my body seemed to adjust to what felt natural. As an adult, I can say that if school started later, I would have just stayed up later. There was even a time in college that I would stay up till 4-5 am. Sometimes you would know a snow day the night before and I would tell my friends on the west coast that I could stay up even later. It was awful but I couldn't see it at the time. It took me years to fix. I now sleep around 1 AM which I still wish I could sleep earlier but I'll take it.
xyzelement 4y ago
// should also better study and educate on the consequences of bad personal habits. Yeah - and you can get away with bad habits until you can't. An ex of mine was very successful through her early 30s despite being out and partying late quite often. Then she joined Goldman Sachs where the bar is higher, and all of a sudden she was like "shit, I gotta go to bed early if I need to keep up."
RheingoldRiver 4y ago
Is it "bad personal habits" though? If I wasn't staying up to 1-2am reading, I was lying in bed waiting to fall asleep until 1-2am with my eyes closed, bored to tears and completely miserable. So you tell me which I should have been doing.
- BenjiWiebe 4y ago
  That's my tendency. I can go to bed at 10pm but what's the point if I can't get to sleep till 1am?
mcv 4y ago
My son's internet goes out at 21:30. He did once rack up a tremendous phone bill by using his phone at night, but I think he learned not to do that any more.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  21:30? Is he 5 years old?! Poor guy.
  - mcv 4y ago
    What are you talking about? No a teenager is not 5. And five year olds don't get their own phone and internet access until 21:30.
    - goodpoint 4y ago
      Missing the point much?
      - mcv 4y ago
        Just trying to communicate clearly. It helps, when trying to get a point across. Try it.
thomastjeffery 4y ago
Seems to me that teenagers in general have a very predictable tendency toward staying up late. Going to bed in the evening isn't a solution to healthy sleep schedules: it's an accommodation to waking up in the morning. Why do teenagers need to be waking up early? Since we know that most struggle accommodating an early rise, why not, as a society, accommodate a late rise?

by tmpz22 4y ago

dobbysfirstsock 4y ago

I 100% agree. I'm unfortunately not an expert in the field but over the years I've seen "studies" that are very flawed or impossible to replicate. I'm all for some experiments for those willing... perhaps it would overall increase the amount of sleep students get... but for some I feel it would completely wreck their schedules. This is anecdotal but when I went to live with my grandparents for a summer, I hated every minute of it. They lived on a farm with no wifi. By the last week or two though, I realized I sorta enjoyed it. I was out like a light by 10 pm every day. I was getting more exercise etc. I had no reliable reason to stay up past 10 pm and my body seemed to adjust to what felt natural. As an adult, I can say that if school started later, I would have just stayed up later. There was even a time in college that I would stay up till 4-5 am. Sometimes you would know a snow day the night before and I would tell my friends on the west coast that I could stay up even later. It was awful but I couldn't see it at the time. It took me years to fix. I now sleep around 1 AM which I still wish I could sleep earlier but I'll take it.

xyzelement 4y ago

// should also better study and educate on the consequences of bad personal habits. Yeah - and you can get away with bad habits until you can't. An ex of mine was very successful through her early 30s despite being out and partying late quite often. Then she joined Goldman Sachs where the bar is higher, and all of a sudden she was like "shit, I gotta go to bed early if I need to keep up."

RheingoldRiver 4y ago

Is it "bad personal habits" though? If I wasn't staying up to 1-2am reading, I was lying in bed waiting to fall asleep until 1-2am with my eyes closed, bored to tears and completely miserable. So you tell me which I should have been doing.

BenjiWiebe 4y ago
That's my tendency. I can go to bed at 10pm but what's the point if I can't get to sleep till 1am?

mcv 4y ago

My son's internet goes out at 21:30. He did once rack up a tremendous phone bill by using his phone at night, but I think he learned not to do that any more.

goodpoint 4y ago
21:30? Is he 5 years old?! Poor guy.
- mcv 4y ago
  What are you talking about? No a teenager is not 5. And five year olds don't get their own phone and internet access until 21:30.
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    Missing the point much?
    - mcv 4y ago
      Just trying to communicate clearly. It helps, when trying to get a point across. Try it.

thomastjeffery 4y ago

Seems to me that teenagers in general have a very predictable tendency toward staying up late. Going to bed in the evening isn't a solution to healthy sleep schedules: it's an accommodation to waking up in the morning. Why do teenagers need to be waking up early? Since we know that most struggle accommodating an early rise, why not, as a society, accommodate a late rise?