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That is emphatically incorrect, and it's difficult to imagine how you could possibly have come to believe that to be the case. It's also irrelevant to the discu

That is emphatically incorrect, and it's difficult to imagine how you could possibly have come to believe that to be the case. It's also irrelevant to the discussion.

galleywest200 4y ago
I do not believe that I have to accept a GPL license for private projects that will never leave my home boxes. Even if I do I will just ignore it since nobody else will use that mess.
- torstenvl 4y ago
  Yes, you absolutely have to abide by the GPL when you are using GPL-licensed code. The text of the GPL does not require you to relicense your modifications under the circumstances you describe; however that is because of what the text of the GPL says, not because "[t]he text of the GPL doesn't matter."
josephcsible 4y ago
What part of copyright law gives the copyright holder any power other than limiting distribution of copies and derivative works? If you get an "all rights reserved" program, are you allowed to run it?
- torstenvl 4y ago
  > If you get an "all rights reserved" program, are you allowed to run it? Only if you have a license... otherwise that's piracy... > What part of copyright law gives the copyright holder any power What exactly are you installing, if not a copy?
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    > What exactly are you installing, if not a copy? That's a copy, but installing it on your own computer isn't distribution.
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    - torstenvl 4y ago
      You say that as if it matters. It does not. Copyright is the exclusive right to copy; the exclusive right to create derivative works; and the exclusive right to distribute the copy or derivative work. 17 U.S.C. § 106. If you do not have a license from a copyright holder, you may not copy the software to your computer (or anywhere else), you may not modify it, and you may not distribute the original or any modifications. Doing any of those without a license is software piracy. (Note, however, that once properly licensed software is on your storage device, copying it into RAM or otherwise copying it "as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program" is always permitted. 17 U.S.C. § 117.)
      - josephcsible 4y ago
        Hasn't it been established that the copying necessary to run a program on your own computer is covered by fair use?
        torstenvl 4y ago
        No.

That is emphatically incorrect, and it's difficult to imagine how you could possibly have come to believe that to be the case. It's also irrelevant to the discussion.

galleywest200 4y ago

I do not believe that I have to accept a GPL license for private projects that will never leave my home boxes. Even if I do I will just ignore it since nobody else will use that mess.

torstenvl 4y ago
Yes, you absolutely have to abide by the GPL when you are using GPL-licensed code. The text of the GPL does not require you to relicense your modifications under the circumstances you describe; however that is because of what the text of the GPL says, not because "[t]he text of the GPL doesn't matter."

josephcsible 4y ago

torstenvl 4y ago
> If you get an "all rights reserved" program, are you allowed to run it? Only if you have a license... otherwise that's piracy... > What part of copyright law gives the copyright holder any power What exactly are you installing, if not a copy?
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > What exactly are you installing, if not a copy? That's a copy, but installing it on your own computer isn't distribution.
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  - torstenvl 4y ago
    You say that as if it matters. It does not. Copyright is the exclusive right to copy; the exclusive right to create derivative works; and the exclusive right to distribute the copy or derivative work. 17 U.S.C. § 106. If you do not have a license from a copyright holder, you may not copy the software to your computer (or anywhere else), you may not modify it, and you may not distribute the original or any modifications. Doing any of those without a license is software piracy. (Note, however, that once properly licensed software is on your storage device, copying it into RAM or otherwise copying it "as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program" is always permitted. 17 U.S.C. § 117.)
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      Hasn't it been established that the copying necessary to run a program on your own computer is covered by fair use?
      - torstenvl 4y ago
        No.