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Also curious to know if it has web clients and desktop clients.

Arathorn 4y ago
We're not planning to rewrite Element Web/Desktop in Rust (yet), so the current app will remain there - although we're going to give it a fairly major UI refresh to match the new mobile apps.
- justaj 4y ago
  Also some performance optimizations would be most welcome for someone like me who is stuck with low power computers.
- Klonoar 4y ago
  Please consider supporting running Element X natively on macOS M1/M2/etc devices, if you can do it. There is currently no native client for macOS at all.
  - Arathorn 4y ago
    I've been dogfooding the iPad layout of Element X under macOS on Apple Silicon since day 1 - it works pretty well. We could also ship it via Catalyst to run as a pure macOS app (albeit with the iPad layout) on both Apple Silicon and Intel, once https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/106021 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/106021 is fixed. Unfortunately making it a "real" macOS app is much harder, as the UI is currently uses UIKit in a bunch of places to make up for feature and performance limitations in SwiftUI. These would have to be ported over to AppKit to run on macOS. I had a go at it over the holidays, but it's not trivial - perhaps someone with more AppKit skills than I could make it work (or maintain a fork) though. To give an idea of the amount of UIKit that would need to be swapped out: matthew@shadowfax ElementX % find . -name \*.swift | xargs perl -ne 'while (/[^a-zA-Z](UI[A-Z].*?)[^a-zA-Z]/g) { print "$1\n" }' | grep -v UITest | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn 52 UIKit 31 UIImage 20 UIApplication 13 UIScrollView 12 UITextView 11 UIDevice 11 UIConstants 10 UIColor 5 UIViewController 5 UIRectCorner 5 UIKitBackgroundTask 5 UIKeyCommand 4 UIView 4 UIPasteboard 4 UIBackgroundTaskIdentifier 3 UIViewControllerRepresentable 3 UITableView 3 UIScreen 3 UINavigationController 3 UIKitBackgroundTaskService 3 UIFont 3 UIActivityViewControllerWrapper 3 UIActivityViewController 2 UIViewRepresentableContext 2 UIViewControllerRepresentableContext 2 UITextViewWrapper 2 UITableViewDelegate 2 UIResponder 2 UIHostingController 2 UICollectionView 1 UIViewType 1 UIViewRepresentable 1 UITraitCollection 1 UITextViewDelegate 1 UITableViewDiffableDataSource 1 UITableViewController 1 UITableViewCell 1 UIScrollViewDelegate 1 UIKitAttributes 1 UIHostingConfiguration 1 UIContentSizeCategory 1 UIBezierPath 1 UIApplicationDelegateAdaptor 1 UIApplicationDelegate 1 UIActivity
    - Klonoar 4y ago
      Honestly the iPad layout is probably "good enough" - though I agree that a macOS-AppKit-backed variant would be incredible. I've got a lot of experience with AppKit and may be down to look at doing that fork once the churn on Element X is lower...
- snvzz 4y ago
  Is verification being implemented in hydrogen? That'd make hydrogen minimally usable. Currently, all the other clients that are logged in constantly nag about an unverified and unverify-able hydrogen session existing! Hydrogen works on older / weaker computers, where element is unusable.
  - RMidhunSuresh 4y ago
    Yes! See https://github.com/vector-im/hydrogen-web/releases/tag/v0.3.8 https://github.com/vector-im/hydrogen-web/releases/tag/v0.3....
    - snvzz 4y ago
      Great.

We're not planning to rewrite Element Web/Desktop in Rust (yet), so the current app will remain there - although we're going to give it a fairly major UI refresh to match the new mobile apps.

justaj 4y ago
Also some performance optimizations would be most welcome for someone like me who is stuck with low power computers.
Klonoar 4y ago
Please consider supporting running Element X natively on macOS M1/M2/etc devices, if you can do it. There is currently no native client for macOS at all.
- Arathorn 4y ago
  I've been dogfooding the iPad layout of Element X under macOS on Apple Silicon since day 1 - it works pretty well. We could also ship it via Catalyst to run as a pure macOS app (albeit with the iPad layout) on both Apple Silicon and Intel, once https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/106021 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/106021 is fixed. Unfortunately making it a "real" macOS app is much harder, as the UI is currently uses UIKit in a bunch of places to make up for feature and performance limitations in SwiftUI. These would have to be ported over to AppKit to run on macOS. I had a go at it over the holidays, but it's not trivial - perhaps someone with more AppKit skills than I could make it work (or maintain a fork) though. To give an idea of the amount of UIKit that would need to be swapped out: matthew@shadowfax ElementX % find . -name \*.swift | xargs perl -ne 'while (/[^a-zA-Z](UI[A-Z].*?)[^a-zA-Z]/g) { print "$1\n" }' | grep -v UITest | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn 52 UIKit 31 UIImage 20 UIApplication 13 UIScrollView 12 UITextView 11 UIDevice 11 UIConstants 10 UIColor 5 UIViewController 5 UIRectCorner 5 UIKitBackgroundTask 5 UIKeyCommand 4 UIView 4 UIPasteboard 4 UIBackgroundTaskIdentifier 3 UIViewControllerRepresentable 3 UITableView 3 UIScreen 3 UINavigationController 3 UIKitBackgroundTaskService 3 UIFont 3 UIActivityViewControllerWrapper 3 UIActivityViewController 2 UIViewRepresentableContext 2 UIViewControllerRepresentableContext 2 UITextViewWrapper 2 UITableViewDelegate 2 UIResponder 2 UIHostingController 2 UICollectionView 1 UIViewType 1 UIViewRepresentable 1 UITraitCollection 1 UITextViewDelegate 1 UITableViewDiffableDataSource 1 UITableViewController 1 UITableViewCell 1 UIScrollViewDelegate 1 UIKitAttributes 1 UIHostingConfiguration 1 UIContentSizeCategory 1 UIBezierPath 1 UIApplicationDelegateAdaptor 1 UIApplicationDelegate 1 UIActivity
  - Klonoar 4y ago
    Honestly the iPad layout is probably "good enough" - though I agree that a macOS-AppKit-backed variant would be incredible. I've got a lot of experience with AppKit and may be down to look at doing that fork once the churn on Element X is lower...
snvzz 4y ago
Is verification being implemented in hydrogen? That'd make hydrogen minimally usable. Currently, all the other clients that are logged in constantly nag about an unverified and unverify-able hydrogen session existing! Hydrogen works on older / weaker computers, where element is unusable.
- RMidhunSuresh 4y ago
  Yes! See https://github.com/vector-im/hydrogen-web/releases/tag/v0.3.8 https://github.com/vector-im/hydrogen-web/releases/tag/v0.3....
  - snvzz 4y ago
    Great.