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Pretty sure the GP definition of broke is not really what broke means. I know it is all the rage these days to just redefine terms to make them often mean the e

Pretty sure the GP definition of broke is not really what broke means. I know it is all the rage these days to just redefine terms to make them often mean the exact opposite of what the rest of the planet understands them to mean But we have to have shared definitions for words or communications just breaks down It can not be "your definition of broke is different from mine" if that is the case then language is just noise and we need to stop communicating

jacquesm 4y ago
Do you realize I'm the idiot that came up with live video in the browser to begin with? When I say it is broken I'm pretty serious about it: we spent a full day because there was one customer that positively insisted that we had to use their Teams setup rather than what we normally use and in the end we just gave up, it isn't worth the stress to me if there is a viable alternative (or even several). But of course if you think that I'm redefining the meaning of the word 'broken' just for the heck of it then you're free to continue to do so.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >> we spent a full day because there was one customer that positively insisted that we had to use their Teams setup rather So you tried it once, as a guest and then banned the entire things with out understand the permissions systems or any other possible causes? Understand that as a Admin I have the power to block Guests from Joining, Block some features from Guest, and so alot of things that is not commonly possible under other platforms. Often these security settings are aggressive by default, for example we had an issue with one client needing to connect to one of our teams room, teams and the room worked fine but because the security settings the Guest could not connect, everyone else could but the guest could not This is not something that can be fixed by the guest, nor it is problem with teams as a technology, it is the security controls built into the platform >Do you realize I'm the idiot that came up with live video in the browser to begin with? and I am a guy that wrote PHP code in the 90's and love it... so....
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    > So you tried it once, as a guest and then banned the entire things with out understand the permissions systems or any other possible causes? That's not what I wrote. I wrote that because someone insisted we said, ok, fine let's invest a bunch of time and solve this and we could not. Before then we had tried multiple times and even now every now and then we get a teams invitation but I just point blank refuse them. Enough time wasted. Check TFA: this is a Microsoft subsidiary that needs to be forced to use the solution provided by the mothership. That push really wouldn't be necessary if the people at GitHub believed that Teams served their needs well.
- LeonB 4y ago
  > Do you realize I’m the idiot who came up with live video in the browser to begin with Ok - that really surprised me and from anyone else I would’ve dismissed it as hyperbole… after some digging I ended up reading this incredible story — https://jacquesmattheij.com/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom/ https://jacquesmattheij.com/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom/ Amazing adventure!
ctvo 4y ago
> Pretty sure the GP definition of broke is not really what broke means. I know it is all the rage these days to just redefine terms to make them often mean the exact opposite of what the rest of the planet understands them to mean After they explained to you it was broken in their official client for their officially supported operating system, you moved the goal post to it's only broken in the client, try the web app instead: > The Linux Desktop client always sucked, so much is no longer a thing, 100% a web app now. The web App teams should work just fine. Just stop.
hulitu 4y ago
I had to restart Windows because Teams will not join meetings. If that is not broken than what ? (killing it with process explorer did not help)

jacquesm 4y ago

Do you realize I'm the idiot that came up with live video in the browser to begin with? When I say it is broken I'm pretty serious about it: we spent a full day because there was one customer that positively insisted that we had to use their Teams setup rather than what we normally use and in the end we just gave up, it isn't worth the stress to me if there is a viable alternative (or even several). But of course if you think that I'm redefining the meaning of the word 'broken' just for the heck of it then you're free to continue to do so.

phpisthebest 4y ago
>> we spent a full day because there was one customer that positively insisted that we had to use their Teams setup rather So you tried it once, as a guest and then banned the entire things with out understand the permissions systems or any other possible causes? Understand that as a Admin I have the power to block Guests from Joining, Block some features from Guest, and so alot of things that is not commonly possible under other platforms. Often these security settings are aggressive by default, for example we had an issue with one client needing to connect to one of our teams room, teams and the room worked fine but because the security settings the Guest could not connect, everyone else could but the guest could not This is not something that can be fixed by the guest, nor it is problem with teams as a technology, it is the security controls built into the platform >Do you realize I'm the idiot that came up with live video in the browser to begin with? and I am a guy that wrote PHP code in the 90's and love it... so....
- jacquesm 4y ago
  > So you tried it once, as a guest and then banned the entire things with out understand the permissions systems or any other possible causes? That's not what I wrote. I wrote that because someone insisted we said, ok, fine let's invest a bunch of time and solve this and we could not. Before then we had tried multiple times and even now every now and then we get a teams invitation but I just point blank refuse them. Enough time wasted. Check TFA: this is a Microsoft subsidiary that needs to be forced to use the solution provided by the mothership. That push really wouldn't be necessary if the people at GitHub believed that Teams served their needs well.
LeonB 4y ago
> Do you realize I’m the idiot who came up with live video in the browser to begin with Ok - that really surprised me and from anyone else I would’ve dismissed it as hyperbole… after some digging I ended up reading this incredible story — https://jacquesmattheij.com/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom/ https://jacquesmattheij.com/story-behind-wwcom-camaradescom/ Amazing adventure!

ctvo 4y ago

> Pretty sure the GP definition of broke is not really what broke means. I know it is all the rage these days to just redefine terms to make them often mean the exact opposite of what the rest of the planet understands them to mean After they explained to you it was broken in their official client for their officially supported operating system, you moved the goal post to it's only broken in the client, try the web app instead: > The Linux Desktop client always sucked, so much is no longer a thing, 100% a web app now. The web App teams should work just fine. Just stop.

hulitu 4y ago

I had to restart Windows because Teams will not join meetings. If that is not broken than what ? (killing it with process explorer did not help)