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> I believe they are over paid for where we live. This is the line I have a bit of trouble with. You shouldn't try to bring others down to feel better about m

> I believe they are over paid for where we live. This is the line I have a bit of trouble with. You shouldn't try to bring others down to feel better about making more, you should see what they're being paid and realize you are worth more. Outline this in asking for compensation adjustment, or begin to look elsewhere. If you can't find a role making more, just try not to let what others make bother you. At the end of the day you are the only one looking out for you - so invest more in doing that, and try to spend less worrying about others. Their making more or less will have little to no impact on your personal career progression.

ipaddr 4y ago
Love the advice. Who cares what someone else is making/ doing / living. The question is are you happy with your pay? Think you should get more? Start applying or asking and see what the market is saying. Comparing salaries is a fools game
rekabis 4y ago
> You shouldn't try to bring others down to feel better about making more, you should see what they're being paid and realize you are worth more. This. The company is probably generating oodles of profit. Any profit whatsoever represents the labour of employees for which they haven’t been paid. These employees have generated value through their labour that the company has realized, and the company has decided to steal this value from the employees rather than giving it back to them. So OP deserves more pay. The company has already determined that relatively low skill levels deserve a certain minimum pay. This does not mean that these employees are overpaid, but rather that OP is underpaid. This focus on fighting against wage increases for others who are beneath you is a psi-ops explicitly engineered by the Parasite Class, to make the lower classes fight their class war for them. The Parasite Class are laughing all the way to their obscenely-bloated offshore investment accounts.
- bpt3 4y ago
  You're really espousing the labor theory of value here?
  - melvyn2 4y ago
    maybe you should explain why not?
    - bpt3 4y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_the_labour_theory_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_the_labour_theor... https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/everything-wrong-with-the-labor-theory/ https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/everything-wrong-wi... (free subscription required to read the full article, but you can use a throwaway email address) In short, it's too simple to work in an economy as complex as ours, it completely ignores the impact of demand, and it assumes all workers are equally productive.
- mandelbrotwurst 4y ago
  The dehumanization in your message really detracts from your argument.
  - bpt3 4y ago
    I thought it was the usage of a completely discredited economic theory to support their argument, but we can both be right!
pxue 4y ago
But realistically salary budgets are in-fact a zero sum game. Departments have a budget. If someone else is unfairly getting paid more, it definitely means that you will be getting paid less.
jollyllama 4y ago
It's bad if your coworkers are drastically overpaid because it will bleed the company dry or prevent the company from hiring other coworkers to help lighten the load. In practice, it's not even about the CEO being overpaid or anything like that, it matters what budget out of the total revenue is allocated to your department. If the department/team isn't adding value, they will be walking around with targets on their backs.

ipaddr 4y ago

Love the advice. Who cares what someone else is making/ doing / living. The question is are you happy with your pay? Think you should get more? Start applying or asking and see what the market is saying. Comparing salaries is a fools game

rekabis 4y ago

> You shouldn't try to bring others down to feel better about making more, you should see what they're being paid and realize you are worth more. This. The company is probably generating oodles of profit. Any profit whatsoever represents the labour of employees for which they haven’t been paid. These employees have generated value through their labour that the company has realized, and the company has decided to steal this value from the employees rather than giving it back to them. So OP deserves more pay. The company has already determined that relatively low skill levels deserve a certain minimum pay. This does not mean that these employees are overpaid, but rather that OP is underpaid. This focus on fighting against wage increases for others who are beneath you is a psi-ops explicitly engineered by the Parasite Class, to make the lower classes fight their class war for them. The Parasite Class are laughing all the way to their obscenely-bloated offshore investment accounts.

bpt3 4y ago
You're really espousing the labor theory of value here?
- melvyn2 4y ago
  maybe you should explain why not?
  - bpt3 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_the_labour_theory_of_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_the_labour_theor... https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/everything-wrong-with-the-labor-theory/ https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/everything-wrong-wi... (free subscription required to read the full article, but you can use a throwaway email address) In short, it's too simple to work in an economy as complex as ours, it completely ignores the impact of demand, and it assumes all workers are equally productive.
mandelbrotwurst 4y ago
The dehumanization in your message really detracts from your argument.
- bpt3 4y ago
  I thought it was the usage of a completely discredited economic theory to support their argument, but we can both be right!

pxue 4y ago

But realistically salary budgets are in-fact a zero sum game. Departments have a budget. If someone else is unfairly getting paid more, it definitely means that you will be getting paid less.

jollyllama 4y ago

It's bad if your coworkers are drastically overpaid because it will bleed the company dry or prevent the company from hiring other coworkers to help lighten the load. In practice, it's not even about the CEO being overpaid or anything like that, it matters what budget out of the total revenue is allocated to your department. If the department/team isn't adding value, they will be walking around with targets on their backs.