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I am an AI researcher, and I wholeheartedly agree with Tom here. I love AI, I love designing and training models and seeing all the amazing things they can do.

by mkaic 4y ago

I am an AI researcher, and I wholeheartedly agree with Tom here. I love AI, I love designing and training models and seeing all the amazing things they can do. But I would be lying if I said I wasn't scared. Like Tom, I have no idea where on the sigmoid curve we are, but I personally believe we're very near the beginning. I thought that becoming a practitioner in this field would make me less susceptible to making big, sweeping claims about it, but I've found the opposite to be true—the more I learn, the more I am convinced that AI will change everything in a manner at least as radical as the internet, if not more. In my opinion, society is completely unprepared for this change and for the new ethical dilemmas, challenges, tools, discoveries, and advancements it will enable. ChatGPT is a proof-of-concept. There are agents far, far more capable than it on their way, and it is impossible to know for sure how they will impact the world at large. We are observing science fiction become science fact and it is really unnerving at times. Tom is a smart and thoughtful guy, and I think he's right on the money with this video.

guluarte 4y ago
There's nothing intelligent in ChatGPT, it's just a text generator on steroids, web spammers have been using this sort of tools for years. It cannot generate new ideas, at the end it just regurgitates content
- mkaic 4y ago
  > It cannot generate new ideas. I don't find very much substance in this argument, given how impossible it is to consistently define "new" and "idea" in this context. At the end of the day, ChatGPT demonstrates that AI models are making real progress towards convincing mimicry of human behavior. How it does it is of no concern to me, what is concerning is the fact that it does it at all.
  - guluarte 4y ago
    it doesn't generate new ideas, it just answers based on statistics, it will be more like a personal search assitant or a tool that helps people finding information
    - mkaic 4y ago
      I'm not sure how "It just answers based on statistics" and "generating new ideas" are mutually exclusive. As a physicalist, I'd argue that the human brain "just answers based on statistics" too. It's all just semi-stochastic chains of activations in the end. Babies learn language by being exposed to many many examples of it, why shouldn't the same work for artificial intelligences? The concept of "new ideas" is also flawed, as nothing is truly new—our actions, feelings, thoughts, desires, and ideas are all recombinations of our experiences. Even the ideas that seem to come out of nowhere must come from somewhere.
      - guluarte 4y ago
        i only need to show a toddler what an apple is once, and he will recognize a apple in every color just fine, i dont need to train him with tons of data and error correction, and tell him "use this relu function here and sigmoid here". A toddler can also start questioning why some apples are red and other greens? and he can come with new ideas of his own, can LLM do that? no, because their answers depends on the data they have been trained for. Im not saying it's not the future, it is, we just need the hardware, once there's a hardware cheap enough that replicates what an human does with his hands, then the days working at a factory will be over. The current AI's are perfect for copycating behavior.
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- bsaul 4y ago
  You sound like someone who has either never tried chatgpt, or someone who’s so scared of the consequences that it prefers to put its head in the sand. «just a text generator on steroid » is meaningless unless you define what « on steroid» means. It might as well describe a novelist’s activity or a programmer. The ability to understand enough of the relationship between words and their associated concepts in chatgpt is good enough to produce meaningful and sometimes correct answers to a huge number of questions. This is far beyond « random », and can easily be described as an « intelligent » capacity.
  - guluarte 4y ago
    has ChatGTP created anything new? something that's is just not rewriting text?
    - anuragvohraec 4y ago
      it hepled me write code using a C library , which otherwise is very poorly documented! Well if it quacks and it swims, it is a duck!
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    - danenania 4y ago
      The tricky part is you can ask similar questions about the human brain. Are our thoughts, ideas, words, and actions really "new", or just deterministic transformations based on our genetics and sensory input? We don't know exactly how our brains do computation, but it's definitely possible that what looks and feels like creativity to us is really, under the hood, just as statistical and mechanistic as an LLM.
      - Kim_Bruning 4y ago
        I agree with much of what you said except the use of the word "just". Chaos theory just happens to be deterministic. And life is most assuredly chaotic. In fact it was equations related to populations of living things that lead to the discovery of chaos theory. (equations wrt the weather also helped) [1] So I'd make your statement: Our thoughts, ideas, words, and actions are really really irreducibly new. They are (deterministic-)chaotic transformations based on our genetics and sensory input. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#Introduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#Introduction
- ubj 4y ago
  ChatGPT certainly lowers the bar to generating intelligible content that sounds convincing and authoritative to non-experts. In some cases it even generates correct and insightful information. The danger of ChatGPT is that it requires little effort to generate massive amounts of content, but much more effort to debunk and fact check. It will become increasingly difficult to separate the signal from the noise as the internet and other places are flooded with auto-generated content. Personally I'm not concerned about ChatGPT becoming some sort of "intelligent overlord". However I am concerned about how other humans will wield this increasingly powerful tool.
- sharemywin 4y ago
  you just have to ask it weird stuff to get stuff that's never be seen before. I meant that could be used by AI chatbots Oh, I see! Here are a few SaaS ideas that AI chatbots could use: A natural language processing (NLP) platform to improve the accuracy and efficiency of chatbot conversations. A platform for managing and analyzing chatbot data, providing insights into customer interactions and feedback. A platform for integrating chatbots with multiple messaging channels, including popular social media platforms, messaging apps, and websites. A platform for building and training custom AI chatbots, allowing businesses to create their own AI-powered customer service and support solutions. A platform for managing and deploying chatbots at scale, providing tools for monitoring and maintaining multiple chatbots across different channels. A platform for automating chatbot deployment and updates, simplifying the process of deploying and maintaining chatbots across different channels. A platform for enhancing the user experience of chatbots, including tools for personalization, gamification, and voice and text-based interactions. These are just a few examples of the types of SaaS solutions that could be used by AI chatbots to improve their functionality and user experience. By leveraging the latest advances in AI and NLP technology, these solutions could help chatbots better understand and respond to customer needs and preferences.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    I wish people would stop spamming threads with AI generated walls of text. Or at least use a pastebin or something so it doesn't take up so much space.
    - sharemywin 4y ago
      I felt the best way to get my point across was an example. Next time I'll as for like 3 examples or cherry pick a couple of the best. but Still think the output is way more complex than people give it credit for.
- sharemywin 4y ago
  could you give me some weird personas that no one has thought to build an app for that I could build an app for Sure, here are some unique and unusual personas that could serve as inspiration for building new and innovative apps: Conspiracy theorists - An app that curates a personalized feed of conspiracy theories, and provides tools for users to explore and validate their claims. Astrology enthusiasts - An app that combines astrological analysis with personalized daily horoscopes and suggestions for self-improvement. People who love to nap - An app that helps users track their napping habits, suggests optimal napping times based on their sleep patterns, and provides guided meditations and ambient sounds to help them fall asleep faster. People who are fascinated by death - An app that allows users to explore different cultural beliefs and rituals around death, and provides tools to plan and organize their own end-of-life wishes. People who are into sensory deprivation - An app that provides a virtual reality experience for users to explore different states of sensory deprivation, such as floating in a sensory deprivation tank or experiencing total darkness. People who are into near-death experiences - An app that collects and curates personal accounts of near-death experiences, and provides tools for users to reflect on and analyze their own experiences. People who are into cryonics - An app that provides information and resources about cryonics, and helps users plan and prepare for their own cryopreservation. I hope these ideas spark your imagination and inspire you to build something new and unique!
graderjs 4y ago
Yeah, in 2 years everything's gonna be sooo different. Combine "post-pandemic baby boom" with, economic boom, with new CPU technology, new battery technology, a new unicorn tech company, a new "category making" device format (not a phone, not a tablet, not a watch, no a VR headset--what is it? is it holography? stay tuned)--add all this to AI craziness, and (hopefully, possibly, but sadly seems later) release of suppressed technologies...everything is gonna be soooo different.

by mkaic 4y ago

guluarte 4y ago

There's nothing intelligent in ChatGPT, it's just a text generator on steroids, web spammers have been using this sort of tools for years. It cannot generate new ideas, at the end it just regurgitates content

mkaic 4y ago
> It cannot generate new ideas. I don't find very much substance in this argument, given how impossible it is to consistently define "new" and "idea" in this context. At the end of the day, ChatGPT demonstrates that AI models are making real progress towards convincing mimicry of human behavior. How it does it is of no concern to me, what is concerning is the fact that it does it at all.
- guluarte 4y ago
  it doesn't generate new ideas, it just answers based on statistics, it will be more like a personal search assitant or a tool that helps people finding information
  - mkaic 4y ago
    I'm not sure how "It just answers based on statistics" and "generating new ideas" are mutually exclusive. As a physicalist, I'd argue that the human brain "just answers based on statistics" too. It's all just semi-stochastic chains of activations in the end. Babies learn language by being exposed to many many examples of it, why shouldn't the same work for artificial intelligences? The concept of "new ideas" is also flawed, as nothing is truly new—our actions, feelings, thoughts, desires, and ideas are all recombinations of our experiences. Even the ideas that seem to come out of nowhere must come from somewhere.
    - guluarte 4y ago
      i only need to show a toddler what an apple is once, and he will recognize a apple in every color just fine, i dont need to train him with tons of data and error correction, and tell him "use this relu function here and sigmoid here". A toddler can also start questioning why some apples are red and other greens? and he can come with new ideas of his own, can LLM do that? no, because their answers depends on the data they have been trained for. Im not saying it's not the future, it is, we just need the hardware, once there's a hardware cheap enough that replicates what an human does with his hands, then the days working at a factory will be over. The current AI's are perfect for copycating behavior.
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bsaul 4y ago
You sound like someone who has either never tried chatgpt, or someone who’s so scared of the consequences that it prefers to put its head in the sand. «just a text generator on steroid » is meaningless unless you define what « on steroid» means. It might as well describe a novelist’s activity or a programmer. The ability to understand enough of the relationship between words and their associated concepts in chatgpt is good enough to produce meaningful and sometimes correct answers to a huge number of questions. This is far beyond « random », and can easily be described as an « intelligent » capacity.
- guluarte 4y ago
  has ChatGTP created anything new? something that's is just not rewriting text?
  - anuragvohraec 4y ago
    it hepled me write code using a C library , which otherwise is very poorly documented! Well if it quacks and it swims, it is a duck!
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - danenania 4y ago
    The tricky part is you can ask similar questions about the human brain. Are our thoughts, ideas, words, and actions really "new", or just deterministic transformations based on our genetics and sensory input? We don't know exactly how our brains do computation, but it's definitely possible that what looks and feels like creativity to us is really, under the hood, just as statistical and mechanistic as an LLM.
    - Kim_Bruning 4y ago
      I agree with much of what you said except the use of the word "just". Chaos theory just happens to be deterministic. And life is most assuredly chaotic. In fact it was equations related to populations of living things that lead to the discovery of chaos theory. (equations wrt the weather also helped) [1] So I'd make your statement: Our thoughts, ideas, words, and actions are really really irreducibly new. They are (deterministic-)chaotic transformations based on our genetics and sensory input. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#Introduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory#Introduction
ubj 4y ago
ChatGPT certainly lowers the bar to generating intelligible content that sounds convincing and authoritative to non-experts. In some cases it even generates correct and insightful information. The danger of ChatGPT is that it requires little effort to generate massive amounts of content, but much more effort to debunk and fact check. It will become increasingly difficult to separate the signal from the noise as the internet and other places are flooded with auto-generated content. Personally I'm not concerned about ChatGPT becoming some sort of "intelligent overlord". However I am concerned about how other humans will wield this increasingly powerful tool.
sharemywin 4y ago
you just have to ask it weird stuff to get stuff that's never be seen before. I meant that could be used by AI chatbots Oh, I see! Here are a few SaaS ideas that AI chatbots could use: A natural language processing (NLP) platform to improve the accuracy and efficiency of chatbot conversations. A platform for managing and analyzing chatbot data, providing insights into customer interactions and feedback. A platform for integrating chatbots with multiple messaging channels, including popular social media platforms, messaging apps, and websites. A platform for building and training custom AI chatbots, allowing businesses to create their own AI-powered customer service and support solutions. A platform for managing and deploying chatbots at scale, providing tools for monitoring and maintaining multiple chatbots across different channels. A platform for automating chatbot deployment and updates, simplifying the process of deploying and maintaining chatbots across different channels. A platform for enhancing the user experience of chatbots, including tools for personalization, gamification, and voice and text-based interactions. These are just a few examples of the types of SaaS solutions that could be used by AI chatbots to improve their functionality and user experience. By leveraging the latest advances in AI and NLP technology, these solutions could help chatbots better understand and respond to customer needs and preferences.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  I wish people would stop spamming threads with AI generated walls of text. Or at least use a pastebin or something so it doesn't take up so much space.
  - sharemywin 4y ago
    I felt the best way to get my point across was an example. Next time I'll as for like 3 examples or cherry pick a couple of the best. but Still think the output is way more complex than people give it credit for.
sharemywin 4y ago
could you give me some weird personas that no one has thought to build an app for that I could build an app for Sure, here are some unique and unusual personas that could serve as inspiration for building new and innovative apps: Conspiracy theorists - An app that curates a personalized feed of conspiracy theories, and provides tools for users to explore and validate their claims. Astrology enthusiasts - An app that combines astrological analysis with personalized daily horoscopes and suggestions for self-improvement. People who love to nap - An app that helps users track their napping habits, suggests optimal napping times based on their sleep patterns, and provides guided meditations and ambient sounds to help them fall asleep faster. People who are fascinated by death - An app that allows users to explore different cultural beliefs and rituals around death, and provides tools to plan and organize their own end-of-life wishes. People who are into sensory deprivation - An app that provides a virtual reality experience for users to explore different states of sensory deprivation, such as floating in a sensory deprivation tank or experiencing total darkness. People who are into near-death experiences - An app that collects and curates personal accounts of near-death experiences, and provides tools for users to reflect on and analyze their own experiences. People who are into cryonics - An app that provides information and resources about cryonics, and helps users plan and prepare for their own cryopreservation. I hope these ideas spark your imagination and inspire you to build something new and unique!

graderjs 4y ago

Yeah, in 2 years everything's gonna be sooo different. Combine "post-pandemic baby boom" with, economic boom, with new CPU technology, new battery technology, a new unicorn tech company, a new "category making" device format (not a phone, not a tablet, not a watch, no a VR headset--what is it? is it holography? stay tuned)--add all this to AI craziness, and (hopefully, possibly, but sadly seems later) release of suppressed technologies...everything is gonna be soooo different.