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The cljs stack I hear about a lot (and use) is ShadowCLJS with reagent (https://reagent-project.github.io/ https://reagent-project.github.io/) and re-frame (htt

by dack 4y ago

The cljs stack I hear about a lot (and use) is ShadowCLJS with reagent (https://reagent-project.github.io/ https://reagent-project.github.io/) and re-frame (https://day8.github.io/re-frame/ https://day8.github.io/re-frame/). ShadowCLJS is more of a build tool, but is really well documented and easy to use. Reagent is basically react but a simpler API, and re-frame is a layer on top of that kinda like redux. It's overkill for some apps but I find it's actually super easy to work with and not as much complexity as I thought. For backend there is luminus (https://luminusweb.com/ https://luminusweb.com/) or Kit (https://kit-clj.github.io/ https://kit-clj.github.io/). They are basically project templates that wire together a ton of popular solutions for various things - database access, migrations, security, html templating, etc. Also includes frontend frameworks like re-frame if you want. edit: forgot to mention fulcro (https://fulcro.fulcrologic.com/ https://fulcro.fulcrologic.com/) which is an interesting full stack solution. I haven't used it though so can't comment, but it sure seems documented well!

ndr 4y ago
Thank you. What about leiningen vs boot vs deps.edn? Did any of this come ahead as a winner in the recent years? It's been a while since I've looked into this.
- simongray 4y ago
  No one uses Boot. The choice is between Leiningen and deps.edn AKA the official Clojure CLI. Personally, I switched to deps.edn back in 2020 and haven't looked back. I like that it's simpler/does less out of the box and I also use the Git dependency feature all the time (you can reference a git sha as a dependency, not just Maven coordinates). Something like 90% of it is just listing dependencies (the same packages as it's all just Maven anyway) and for the remaining 10% of configuration there's plenty of resources available for both. They can also interop to some extent. Other ecosystems have it much worse than Clojure in this regard.
- gtoast 4y ago
  Boot died, sadly. There was some talk of a Boot 3.0 but it never materialized. I think deps.edn took all the steam out of it. Duplicated a lot of functionality and none of the esoteric-ness.

by dack 4y ago

ndr 4y ago

Thank you. What about leiningen vs boot vs deps.edn? Did any of this come ahead as a winner in the recent years? It's been a while since I've looked into this.

simongray 4y ago
No one uses Boot. The choice is between Leiningen and deps.edn AKA the official Clojure CLI. Personally, I switched to deps.edn back in 2020 and haven't looked back. I like that it's simpler/does less out of the box and I also use the Git dependency feature all the time (you can reference a git sha as a dependency, not just Maven coordinates). Something like 90% of it is just listing dependencies (the same packages as it's all just Maven anyway) and for the remaining 10% of configuration there's plenty of resources available for both. They can also interop to some extent. Other ecosystems have it much worse than Clojure in this regard.
gtoast 4y ago
Boot died, sadly. There was some talk of a Boot 3.0 but it never materialized. I think deps.edn took all the steam out of it. Duplicated a lot of functionality and none of the esoteric-ness.