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Hmm. You know, I've got 3483 karma as I read this, and I get upvotes and downvotes and responses to my comments...but I get the exact same "instant loads while

Hmm. You know, I've got 3483 karma as I read this, and I get upvotes and downvotes and responses to my comments...but I get the exact same "instant loads while logged out, slow as hell page loads logged in" behavior as described in the linked blog. Now, at some point I got barred from flagging articles, so I don't know whether this is some sort of mind-gamey attempt at community management or just a simple bug.

endianswap 15y ago
Doesn't it make sense that the website loads quicker when you're not logged in? Not only will the caches be hit more frequently, but the queries are likely simpler than having to include lookups to see which articles on that page you've already upvoted, etc..
- Semiapies 15y ago
  Why would the caches be hit more frequently, particularly with the continuations-based setup of the site? And seriously, it applies to the list views, too. All the same things, including the links to upvote articles, get generated when you're logged out. You just get redirected if you actually click on one.
  - Half_a_Bee 15y ago
    And worse, I just created a new account, and everything is lightning fast. (Yes, I'm Semiapies.) I may just have to dump this account that I've had for three years.
  - endianswap 15y ago
    Sorry, I wrongly assumed that the front pages like Top on Recent were the main slow pages. Also I have definitely seen slowdowns on my two week old account, and I only have one comment that has zero points (and none with negative.) I haven't submitted any links or anything so I dont know why HN would care to intentionally slow down my pages, if that is what's happening.
Lazare 15y ago
HN implements both hellbanning and slowbanning[1]. Slowbanning makes the pages load very very slowly, and it's used as a warning step before hellbanning. You've almost certainly been slowbanned. To check, create a throwaway account, and log in - you should find HN is fast. Log out, log in as your main account - you should find HN is slow again. If so, then cnsider this your one and only warning. Someone didn't like something you did. You'll probably never know what it was exactly, but if you do it again you'll likely be hellbanned. [1]: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-hellban.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h...
- Semiapies 15y ago
  Yes, I just tried this. A "warning step", I suppose, absent anything like a warning. But then, a warning would imply that a human being made a choice, as opposed to some arcane calculation in the backend of the server that's hidden from the user by design.
jnbiche 15y ago
Yes, slowbanning seems to be what has recently happened to me. I was wondering why my connection had gotten so slow on this site alone over the past few days. Why in the world?? I try to be polite always, although I don't hesitate to disagree with someone with facts and politely. If I was slowbanned because I made a comment about the Google Mocality issue, I'm going to be very, very sad about this wonderful community I thought I had found. Please look into my history and tell me why I've been slowbanned. My connection is super-fast when I'm logged out, and super slow when I'm logged in. I find this very distressing, particularly since I have been so happy about finding this community.

endianswap 15y ago

Doesn't it make sense that the website loads quicker when you're not logged in? Not only will the caches be hit more frequently, but the queries are likely simpler than having to include lookups to see which articles on that page you've already upvoted, etc..

Semiapies 15y ago
Why would the caches be hit more frequently, particularly with the continuations-based setup of the site? And seriously, it applies to the list views, too. All the same things, including the links to upvote articles, get generated when you're logged out. You just get redirected if you actually click on one.
- Half_a_Bee 15y ago
  And worse, I just created a new account, and everything is lightning fast. (Yes, I'm Semiapies.) I may just have to dump this account that I've had for three years.
- endianswap 15y ago
  Sorry, I wrongly assumed that the front pages like Top on Recent were the main slow pages. Also I have definitely seen slowdowns on my two week old account, and I only have one comment that has zero points (and none with negative.) I haven't submitted any links or anything so I dont know why HN would care to intentionally slow down my pages, if that is what's happening.

Lazare 15y ago

HN implements both hellbanning and slowbanning[1]. Slowbanning makes the pages load very very slowly, and it's used as a warning step before hellbanning. You've almost certainly been slowbanned. To check, create a throwaway account, and log in - you should find HN is fast. Log out, log in as your main account - you should find HN is slow again. If so, then cnsider this your one and only warning. Someone didn't like something you did. You'll probably never know what it was exactly, but if you do it again you'll likely be hellbanned. [1]: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-hellban.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h...

Semiapies 15y ago
Yes, I just tried this. A "warning step", I suppose, absent anything like a warning. But then, a warning would imply that a human being made a choice, as opposed to some arcane calculation in the backend of the server that's hidden from the user by design.

jnbiche 15y ago

Yes, slowbanning seems to be what has recently happened to me. I was wondering why my connection had gotten so slow on this site alone over the past few days. Why in the world?? I try to be polite always, although I don't hesitate to disagree with someone with facts and politely. If I was slowbanned because I made a comment about the Google Mocality issue, I'm going to be very, very sad about this wonderful community I thought I had found. Please look into my history and tell me why I've been slowbanned. My connection is super-fast when I'm logged out, and super slow when I'm logged in. I find this very distressing, particularly since I have been so happy about finding this community.