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Wow, that's an astonishing improvement in weight compared to other VR headsets. Here's Meta's line-up for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/JoTt10p.png https://i.

Wow, that's an astonishing improvement in weight compared to other VR headsets. Here's Meta's line-up for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/JoTt10p.png https://i.imgur.com/JoTt10p.png

rpdillon 4y ago
Meta's lineup isn't a fair comparison IMO, since those include significant compute power to a actually run the software, battery, inside out tracking, and are completely untethered, all for about half of what this costs. This is a tethered display that relies on separate controllers, lighthouses, and computation. That said, lightweight is awesome. I think getting weight out of the headset is going to be really important for any sort of casual use of VR, but I don't think this product is good example of that, just because of all the other requirements.
- sandworm101 4y ago
  I'll pay the extra to keep my face free of meta stickers. I don't care to share my viewing habits with that beast.
  - stephc_int13 4y ago
    Same, I would not buy/use any Meta product if I can choose. I have a very mild interest in VR but if the tech really improves this is something I could try. Past experiences have been disappointing.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      It's not very likely anyone will offer a privacy conscious VR product, at least any more than we have now. You can run a relatively "Open" VR stack with Proton and Linux, but that's not really marketable to major audiences. Even selling it to Windows users didn't really work. The last chances of a truly privacy-respecting VR experience dried up when "The Industry" walked away from OpenXR and other efforts to treat VR like a first-class technology and not a toy. Maybe not the worst choice in hindsight, but it's also the one that lead us down this road of "product-ized" virtual reality.
      - CursedUrn 4y ago
        There is a big difference between Facebook having cameras inside your house and someone like Valve. We know that Valve makes money primarily from software sales, whereas Facebook's core business is collecting user data for targeted advertising, so you know they will taking advantage of every camera and microphone you give them. Facebook also has a terrible ethical history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
        smoldesu 4y ago
        Well, we need "someone like Valve" to make Open VR a reality at-scale. Otherwise it's just going to become another ad-infested content pipeline.

Wow, that's an astonishing improvement in weight compared to other VR headsets. Here's Meta's line-up for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/JoTt10p.png https://i.imgur.com/JoTt10p.png

rpdillon 4y ago

Meta's lineup isn't a fair comparison IMO, since those include significant compute power to a actually run the software, battery, inside out tracking, and are completely untethered, all for about half of what this costs. This is a tethered display that relies on separate controllers, lighthouses, and computation. That said, lightweight is awesome. I think getting weight out of the headset is going to be really important for any sort of casual use of VR, but I don't think this product is good example of that, just because of all the other requirements.

sandworm101 4y ago
I'll pay the extra to keep my face free of meta stickers. I don't care to share my viewing habits with that beast.
- stephc_int13 4y ago
  Same, I would not buy/use any Meta product if I can choose. I have a very mild interest in VR but if the tech really improves this is something I could try. Past experiences have been disappointing.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    It's not very likely anyone will offer a privacy conscious VR product, at least any more than we have now. You can run a relatively "Open" VR stack with Proton and Linux, but that's not really marketable to major audiences. Even selling it to Windows users didn't really work. The last chances of a truly privacy-respecting VR experience dried up when "The Industry" walked away from OpenXR and other efforts to treat VR like a first-class technology and not a toy. Maybe not the worst choice in hindsight, but it's also the one that lead us down this road of "product-ized" virtual reality.
    - CursedUrn 4y ago
      There is a big difference between Facebook having cameras inside your house and someone like Valve. We know that Valve makes money primarily from software sales, whereas Facebook's core business is collecting user data for targeted advertising, so you know they will taking advantage of every camera and microphone you give them. Facebook also has a terrible ethical history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        Well, we need "someone like Valve" to make Open VR a reality at-scale. Otherwise it's just going to become another ad-infested content pipeline.