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AirBnB is in a completely different league of shady fees. As a consumer it’s hard to differentiate junk fees from mandatory fees imposed by federal, state, cou

by wil421 4y ago

AirBnB is in a completely different league of shady fees. As a consumer it’s hard to differentiate junk fees from mandatory fees imposed by federal, state, county, municipalities fees. As an example I pay different sales taxes for the same internet plan in 2 different states. Another example is my cellphone plan was slightly higher in another city/county than my current residence due to different E911 fees. The difference is usually cents to a dollar.

nicbou 4y ago
Those ought to be included in the price. The only exception are optional upgrades, and even those have to be clearly disclosed in advance.
- PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
  It's not clear how you would include a per-county E911 fee in any advertised price. How do you know where the person viewing it actually lives?
  - SAI_Peregrinus 4y ago
    Disclose that there's a per-county E911 fee in the ad.
    - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
      >* plus government fees and taxes This is a very common feature of such ads. In small print, of course.
  - Adrox 4y ago
    If you can’t know the price, you don’t display a wrong price, simple. You either geo-locate, or maybe put the minimum E911? In EU these kind of sheenings never happen. Airplane sites tried with payment fees, adding 40/50€ for ALL providers. EU changed the law that the price has to include the fee for at least 1 payment… So if the cheapest is paypal at 30€, they have to add 30€ to the price.
    - gruez 4y ago
      >In EU these kind of sheenings never happen. Maybe because it's more fragmented in terms of language/culture, so you don't have ad campaigns that span both ends of the continent? The wider prevalence of unitary governments (as opposed to federal systems) also help.
      - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
        For county-level fees (sales tax, E911, several more), the ad only has to "span" county boundaries ...
    - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
      So I'm in Santa Fe, and I see an ad for internet service. But I live in Rio Rancho (50 miles/80km away). The E911 fee is different in both counties. Geo-locating isn't going to help.
jjoonathan 4y ago
Those should be included in the price too.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
You'll pay a different price for the same cup of branded coffee in the Atlanta airport depending on which concourse you're in due to the airport crossing over the line between counties with different sales tax rates. Other than on a few select items like gasoline, there is no national sales tax (and I'm guessing that the federal tax on gasoline is classified as something other than sales tax), so yes, this makes it impossible to post a tax included price in any mass media type communication. But when advertising on the individual level where the location of the transaction is known, they can determine the taxes and fees ahead of time.

by wil421 4y ago

nicbou 4y ago

Those ought to be included in the price. The only exception are optional upgrades, and even those have to be clearly disclosed in advance.

PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
It's not clear how you would include a per-county E911 fee in any advertised price. How do you know where the person viewing it actually lives?
- SAI_Peregrinus 4y ago
  Disclose that there's a per-county E911 fee in the ad.
  - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
    >* plus government fees and taxes This is a very common feature of such ads. In small print, of course.
- Adrox 4y ago
  If you can’t know the price, you don’t display a wrong price, simple. You either geo-locate, or maybe put the minimum E911? In EU these kind of sheenings never happen. Airplane sites tried with payment fees, adding 40/50€ for ALL providers. EU changed the law that the price has to include the fee for at least 1 payment… So if the cheapest is paypal at 30€, they have to add 30€ to the price.
  - gruez 4y ago
    >In EU these kind of sheenings never happen. Maybe because it's more fragmented in terms of language/culture, so you don't have ad campaigns that span both ends of the continent? The wider prevalence of unitary governments (as opposed to federal systems) also help.
    - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
      For county-level fees (sales tax, E911, several more), the ad only has to "span" county boundaries ...
  - PaulDavisThe1st 4y ago
    So I'm in Santa Fe, and I see an ad for internet service. But I live in Rio Rancho (50 miles/80km away). The E911 fee is different in both counties. Geo-locating isn't going to help.

jjoonathan 4y ago

Those should be included in the price too.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

You'll pay a different price for the same cup of branded coffee in the Atlanta airport depending on which concourse you're in due to the airport crossing over the line between counties with different sales tax rates. Other than on a few select items like gasoline, there is no national sales tax (and I'm guessing that the federal tax on gasoline is classified as something other than sales tax), so yes, this makes it impossible to post a tax included price in any mass media type communication. But when advertising on the individual level where the location of the transaction is known, they can determine the taxes and fees ahead of time.