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They are just balloons. Please try to keep the aluminum foil hats out of Hackernews.

by guhcampos 4y ago

akmarinov 4y ago
No
otreblatercero 4y ago
Either a Government Façade(conspiracy) or Extraterrestrials. Now the "reasonable" people are in a conundrum.
- haswell 4y ago
  This is the interesting thing about the current situation. A tinfoil hat seems appropriate regardless of the direction you point your tinfoilery. I think the truth is far more likely to involve the government keeping secrets than aliens, but in both cases, something is up.
  - dariusj18 4y ago
    When it concerns this kind of stuff, government secrecy is very important. Anything the military says gives intelligence to anyone listening.
- krapp 4y ago
  The implication that "reasonable people" deny the existence of conspiracies altogether is incorrect. Obviously conspiracies exist, it's just a matter of belief versus proof, and probability. Reasonable people are willing to accept the likelihood that these are Chinese spy balloons or other mundane (not extraterrestrial) objects, and even that the government is pulling some kind of bullshit act with it in the media for the sake of politics or optics. It isn't the case that any conspiracy afoot is equally as likely as aliens. It isn't going to be aliens.
Nathanael_M 4y ago
They're probably just balloons. However, this is someone directly saying that they aren't sure they're just balloons. They're obviously very different from the first balloon. Things can exist in the technologically fascinating middle ground between completely boring and aluminum foil hat alien invasion. If governments are investing into developing stealth balloons then I guarantee there is fascinating technology that we don't know about that I am excited to know more about. This is an ideal place to discuss it.
- michaelt 4y ago
  Or it's clickbait. Journalist: "Can you prove beyond all doubt the moon isn't made of cheese? Have you confirmed it firsthand? Have you stood on the moon and tried to take a bite of it yourself?" General: "What??? Uh, I haven't been to the moon, so I guess I'd have to answer no." Journalist: "Moon made of cheese? Senior U.S. general says not ruling out anything yet"
  - dynamite-ready 4y ago
    The difference is in how sure the officials are about what they can rule out. That's what's very different here. 'We're not sure what it might be', is very different from the usual 'No comment' that we'd been so accustomed to. You'd wonder whether that's because of: A: Misdirection B: Genuine uncertainty C: A new policy with which to address social media But you know, just the need to shoot something down, disclose that fact publicly, but not reveal exactly what it is (even if it is just a terrestrial source), is pretty freaky.
- mekal 4y ago
  How about if the headline ends with a question mark, or begins with a click bait phrase like "It could be" or "We may have just witnessed", or says something about what someone is "unable to confirm", and is in any way shape or form related to aliens, we just assume it's a soap opera and let the folks that specialize in that, like cnn or whatever, handle it? If cnn says something like "Pentagon has officially confirmed aliens are here." or "Pentagon has officially confirmed China has new stealth tech." then we can take a look.

They are just balloons. Please try to keep the aluminum foil hats out of Hackernews.

akmarinov 4y ago

otreblatercero 4y ago

Either a Government Façade(conspiracy) or Extraterrestrials. Now the "reasonable" people are in a conundrum.

haswell 4y ago
This is the interesting thing about the current situation. A tinfoil hat seems appropriate regardless of the direction you point your tinfoilery. I think the truth is far more likely to involve the government keeping secrets than aliens, but in both cases, something is up.
- dariusj18 4y ago
  When it concerns this kind of stuff, government secrecy is very important. Anything the military says gives intelligence to anyone listening.
krapp 4y ago
The implication that "reasonable people" deny the existence of conspiracies altogether is incorrect. Obviously conspiracies exist, it's just a matter of belief versus proof, and probability. Reasonable people are willing to accept the likelihood that these are Chinese spy balloons or other mundane (not extraterrestrial) objects, and even that the government is pulling some kind of bullshit act with it in the media for the sake of politics or optics. It isn't the case that any conspiracy afoot is equally as likely as aliens. It isn't going to be aliens.

Nathanael_M 4y ago

They're probably just balloons. However, this is someone directly saying that they aren't sure they're just balloons. They're obviously very different from the first balloon. Things can exist in the technologically fascinating middle ground between completely boring and aluminum foil hat alien invasion. If governments are investing into developing stealth balloons then I guarantee there is fascinating technology that we don't know about that I am excited to know more about. This is an ideal place to discuss it.

michaelt 4y ago
Or it's clickbait. Journalist: "Can you prove beyond all doubt the moon isn't made of cheese? Have you confirmed it firsthand? Have you stood on the moon and tried to take a bite of it yourself?" General: "What??? Uh, I haven't been to the moon, so I guess I'd have to answer no." Journalist: "Moon made of cheese? Senior U.S. general says not ruling out anything yet"
- dynamite-ready 4y ago
  The difference is in how sure the officials are about what they can rule out. That's what's very different here. 'We're not sure what it might be', is very different from the usual 'No comment' that we'd been so accustomed to. You'd wonder whether that's because of: A: Misdirection B: Genuine uncertainty C: A new policy with which to address social media But you know, just the need to shoot something down, disclose that fact publicly, but not reveal exactly what it is (even if it is just a terrestrial source), is pretty freaky.
mekal 4y ago
How about if the headline ends with a question mark, or begins with a click bait phrase like "It could be" or "We may have just witnessed", or says something about what someone is "unable to confirm", and is in any way shape or form related to aliens, we just assume it's a soap opera and let the folks that specialize in that, like cnn or whatever, handle it? If cnn says something like "Pentagon has officially confirmed aliens are here." or "Pentagon has officially confirmed China has new stealth tech." then we can take a look.