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I don't think that's exactly it (though I don't understand the down votes you're getting). The bigger issue is proving the lies. The problem we have is that peo

by yock 15y ago

I don't think that's exactly it (though I don't understand the down votes you're getting). The bigger issue is proving the lies. The problem we have is that people allow their leaders to be vague and imprecise. Whether or not something is truthful becomes largely based on interpretation and perspective. The art of bullshit elevated to a career.

nl 15y ago
(The downvotes kind of prove both our points, and point to the kind of behaviours we should expect from politicians: you get more votes for saying what people want you to say than what you believe the truth is.) Regarding "proving the lies" sites like http://www.politifact.com/ http://www.politifact.com/ are quite good.
- yock 15y ago
  People have started using downvotes to indicate disagreement. Ironically, on this site at least, sufficient downvotes result in that post being hidden from view. Imagine that, censoring opinions with which you (in the proverbial sense) disagree.