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Reddit (and now HN) is the only source that shows this on the front page - I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Corporate news outlets have kept it from th

Reddit (and now HN) is the only source that shows this on the front page - I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Corporate news outlets have kept it from the front page.

colpabar 4y ago
A reporter was literally arrested for reporting on it. https://archive.ph/esy2M https://archive.ph/esy2M
- Chronoyes 4y ago
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  - colpabar 4y ago
    Well, I provided an archived link to an ABC article to back up my claim, and you have provided nothing to back up yours. You also rudely implied that I don’t know how to consume news media. Why should I, or anyone else, believe you? edit: and why did you create a new account to make this claim?
  - 34679 4y ago
    I'm not going to beat around the bush here: You are lying. The charges were trespassing and disorderly conduct. The reporter was in the middle of a live report when the governor began a speech and the police asked him to be quiet before arresting him. The governor apologized and offered a one on one interview after the reporter's release.
  - jklinger410 4y ago
    user: Chronoyes created: 38 minutes ago karma: 1
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Call me cynical but that explains why the media suddenly seems to care now but didn't seem to care earlier when it was a "developing story" they could have slung more eyeball grabbing ($$) fear porn into. People on the parts of the internet HN stays far away from were sharing pictures of the crash and fireball for a few days before anyone gave a crap. Then someone arrests a reporter and suddenly the media has a bone to pick.
Chronoyes 4y ago
That's an extraordinary allegation. Any evidence of this conspiracy?
- iinnPP 4y ago
  I just loaded up CNN and saw 20 stories before having enough. The worst example being a celebrity pregnancy. I did not note anything about this story. I viewed the mobile website and desktop version. I can think of a billion things going on right now that are vastly more important than anything about a celebrity pregnancy.
- blincoln 4y ago
  I'm skeptical that it's a deliberate conspiracy, and this is not a scientific test, but I just checked the following news sites, and not one of them had any related hits for "Ohio" listed on their main pages: BBC America Reuters CNN Fox News The New York Times The Seattle Times MSNBC CNBC Seems a little weird for sure. All of those sources have coverage AFAIK, but one has to dig to see it. I imagine algorithmic content promotion is at least partly a factor. I.e. if people aren't clicking on news about that story as much, it probably falls off the main page. So perhaps it's more like paid corporate Wikipedia shills, except it's click farms to promote other content and get the embarrassing news off of the front page? That having been said, I know of at least two topics the American press is likely to deliberately downplay or avoid reporting on - solo suicides and certain types of civil unrest - so while I strongly dislike conspiracy theories in general and think it's unlikely in this case, I can't rule out the possibility that this is another one of those topics.
  - neogodless 4y ago
    For what it's worth, I thought ABC was an obvious omission from the above https://abcnews.go.com/ https://abcnews.go.com/ It is actually the first on the list at the top left as of my comment, linking to: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/train-derailment-prompts-water-utility-precautions-97077678 https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/train-derailment-prompts... The headline is rather tame, though: "Train derailment prompts water utility to take precautions"
neogodless 4y ago
There is a relevant article on APNews, and ~~it's~~ it was on their front page. https://apnews.com/ https://apnews.com/ https://imgur.com/a/Li9oDSO https://imgur.com/a/Li9oDSO An earlier article from APNews was submitted, but was likely missed due to timing. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772 Front Page Link (2023-02-13): https://apnews.com/article/evacuations-west-virginia-pennsylvania-ohio-b7943bd49fd11e62d45b28b77393e261 https://apnews.com/article/evacuations-west-virginia-pennsyl... Reddit Link (2023-02-08): https://apnews.com/article/rail-accidents-evacuations-ohio-health-climate-and-environment-3f84663f0b97837cc74a8ce9a50ef6c7 https://apnews.com/article/rail-accidents-evacuations-ohio-h... NPR Article (2023-02-05): https://www.npr.org/2023/02/05/1154718234/mechanical-defect-ohio-train-derailment https://www.npr.org/2023/02/05/1154718234/mechanical-defect-... First Article (2023-02-04): https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-ohio-evacuations-fires-5d399dc745f51ef746e22828083d8591 https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-ohio-evacuations-fir... See related discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34758525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34758525 1 day ago, 128 comments "Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment" Source: https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-derailment/health-concerns-mounting-as-animals-become-sick-after-train-derailment/ https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-de...
- petodo 4y ago
  No it's not on AP frontpage, posting merely 30 minutes after your post. https://imgur.com/a/BeQuARZ https://imgur.com/a/BeQuARZ
  - neogodless 4y ago
    Same here. It was on the AP front page. But is no longer.
    - petodo 4y ago
      Yeah I wonder for how many seconds it was there, since you can't even count it in hours, but "UFO" is still there as the biggest news in world as you can see in my screenshot and also by visiting the page. For instance if I would not be BANNED from posting links on HN I'd post also this which I find more interesting news affecting everyone than some dumb made up baloons which are on par with Iraqi WMD https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/more-natality-data-from-other-countries https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/more-natality-data-from-o... But aparently I'm ALWAYS posting too fast only when it comes to posts, but have no such problems with comments, it's sad how low can go HN in shadowbanning users without transparently communicating why is one banned from something.

Reddit (and now HN) is the only source that shows this on the front page - I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Corporate news outlets have kept it from the front page.

colpabar 4y ago

A reporter was literally arrested for reporting on it. https://archive.ph/esy2M https://archive.ph/esy2M

Chronoyes 4y ago
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- colpabar 4y ago
  Well, I provided an archived link to an ABC article to back up my claim, and you have provided nothing to back up yours. You also rudely implied that I don’t know how to consume news media. Why should I, or anyone else, believe you? edit: and why did you create a new account to make this claim?
- 34679 4y ago
  I'm not going to beat around the bush here: You are lying. The charges were trespassing and disorderly conduct. The reporter was in the middle of a live report when the governor began a speech and the police asked him to be quiet before arresting him. The governor apologized and offered a one on one interview after the reporter's release.
- jklinger410 4y ago
  user: Chronoyes created: 38 minutes ago karma: 1
dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Call me cynical but that explains why the media suddenly seems to care now but didn't seem to care earlier when it was a "developing story" they could have slung more eyeball grabbing ($$) fear porn into. People on the parts of the internet HN stays far away from were sharing pictures of the crash and fireball for a few days before anyone gave a crap. Then someone arrests a reporter and suddenly the media has a bone to pick.

Chronoyes 4y ago

That's an extraordinary allegation. Any evidence of this conspiracy?

iinnPP 4y ago
I just loaded up CNN and saw 20 stories before having enough. The worst example being a celebrity pregnancy. I did not note anything about this story. I viewed the mobile website and desktop version. I can think of a billion things going on right now that are vastly more important than anything about a celebrity pregnancy.
blincoln 4y ago
I'm skeptical that it's a deliberate conspiracy, and this is not a scientific test, but I just checked the following news sites, and not one of them had any related hits for "Ohio" listed on their main pages: BBC America Reuters CNN Fox News The New York Times The Seattle Times MSNBC CNBC Seems a little weird for sure. All of those sources have coverage AFAIK, but one has to dig to see it. I imagine algorithmic content promotion is at least partly a factor. I.e. if people aren't clicking on news about that story as much, it probably falls off the main page. So perhaps it's more like paid corporate Wikipedia shills, except it's click farms to promote other content and get the embarrassing news off of the front page? That having been said, I know of at least two topics the American press is likely to deliberately downplay or avoid reporting on - solo suicides and certain types of civil unrest - so while I strongly dislike conspiracy theories in general and think it's unlikely in this case, I can't rule out the possibility that this is another one of those topics.
- neogodless 4y ago
  For what it's worth, I thought ABC was an obvious omission from the above https://abcnews.go.com/ https://abcnews.go.com/ It is actually the first on the list at the top left as of my comment, linking to: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/train-derailment-prompts-water-utility-precautions-97077678 https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/train-derailment-prompts... The headline is rather tame, though: "Train derailment prompts water utility to take precautions"

neogodless 4y ago

There is a relevant article on APNews, and ~~it's~~ it was on their front page. https://apnews.com/ https://apnews.com/ https://imgur.com/a/Li9oDSO https://imgur.com/a/Li9oDSO An earlier article from APNews was submitted, but was likely missed due to timing. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34770772 Front Page Link (2023-02-13): https://apnews.com/article/evacuations-west-virginia-pennsylvania-ohio-b7943bd49fd11e62d45b28b77393e261 https://apnews.com/article/evacuations-west-virginia-pennsyl... Reddit Link (2023-02-08): https://apnews.com/article/rail-accidents-evacuations-ohio-health-climate-and-environment-3f84663f0b97837cc74a8ce9a50ef6c7 https://apnews.com/article/rail-accidents-evacuations-ohio-h... NPR Article (2023-02-05): https://www.npr.org/2023/02/05/1154718234/mechanical-defect-ohio-train-derailment https://www.npr.org/2023/02/05/1154718234/mechanical-defect-... First Article (2023-02-04): https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-ohio-evacuations-fires-5d399dc745f51ef746e22828083d8591 https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-ohio-evacuations-fir... See related discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34758525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34758525 1 day ago, 128 comments "Health concerns mounting as animals become sick after train derailment" Source: https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-derailment/health-concerns-mounting-as-animals-become-sick-after-train-derailment/ https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/east-palestine-train-de...

petodo 4y ago
No it's not on AP frontpage, posting merely 30 minutes after your post. https://imgur.com/a/BeQuARZ https://imgur.com/a/BeQuARZ
- neogodless 4y ago
  Same here. It was on the AP front page. But is no longer.
  - petodo 4y ago
    Yeah I wonder for how many seconds it was there, since you can't even count it in hours, but "UFO" is still there as the biggest news in world as you can see in my screenshot and also by visiting the page. For instance if I would not be BANNED from posting links on HN I'd post also this which I find more interesting news affecting everyone than some dumb made up baloons which are on par with Iraqi WMD https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/more-natality-data-from-other-countries https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/more-natality-data-from-o... But aparently I'm ALWAYS posting too fast only when it comes to posts, but have no such problems with comments, it's sad how low can go HN in shadowbanning users without transparently communicating why is one banned from something.