Hopefully you two can see the "useful confusion" here (a phrase that just popped in my head). Maybe it is rooted in misunderstanding. Or maybe it is rooted in s

Hopefully you two can see the "useful confusion" here (a phrase that just popped in my head). Maybe it is rooted in misunderstanding. Or maybe it is rooted in some deeper unsurfaced underlying ideas. For one, I'd like to see us two learn from each other (demonstrating some awareness of ambiguity and theory of mind) rather than proceed on the current course, zinging each other. (Note: I'm not saying I'm any better, in general. It is mostly because I'm a third-party here that I see it.) In particular, my understanding of emergence can be stated as follows. While emergent behavior can theoretically be predicted from the underlying system, it is practically infeasible to measure precisely enough to do so. Therefore, for practical purposes, there is an "predictive gap" between the lower-level system laws and the higher-level behavior.