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Far too many don't trust the us gov to run such a critical service and our defense budget already effectively subsidizes Europe's socialized healthcare.

janalsncm 4y ago
If you don’t trust the government to run healthcare you definitely shouldn’t trust them to run the military.
- corbulo 4y ago
  That's intensely reductionist. Also, the military's healthcare is some of the worst in the country. They couldn't even be sued for malpractice until 2021. Some systems have worked historically under gov control, and others have not.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    That doesn’t appear to be true. The FTCA dates back to 1946, and cases like https://www.levinperconti.com/press-releases/6-2-million-verdict-in-medical-malpractice-case-against-va/ https://www.levinperconti.com/press-releases/6-2-million-ver... predating 2021 aren’t hard to find.
    - corbulo 4y ago
      This took literally 2 seconds to find https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/16/troops-can-finally-file-medical-malpractice-claims-against-military-heres-how.html https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/16/troops-can-fi... VA healthcare is usually once you're not in the service anymore. VA healthcare is also another shining example of how bad gov is at medicine.
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- ragebol 4y ago
  They don't trust them with a military either, hence the 2nd amendment and there being guns everywhere.
simonh 4y ago
If half your political establishment is absolutely dedicated to making sure public health care fails as much and as hard as possible for ideological reasons, sure, it's going to be hard to get public health care to work. Oh BTW your private medical insurance system also subsidises our health care by over-inflating drug costs, paying an outsized proportion of drug development costs, so cheers. From a citizen of a European country that does pay it's way militarily.
- corbulo 4y ago
  Totally agree. Thats an issue thats also been occurring in the UK. Remember WannaCry in 2017? Probably caused by Torries defunding it. Lots of downsides to socialized healthcare with incompetent govs.

janalsncm 4y ago

If you don’t trust the government to run healthcare you definitely shouldn’t trust them to run the military.

corbulo 4y ago
That's intensely reductionist. Also, the military's healthcare is some of the worst in the country. They couldn't even be sued for malpractice until 2021. Some systems have worked historically under gov control, and others have not.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  That doesn’t appear to be true. The FTCA dates back to 1946, and cases like https://www.levinperconti.com/press-releases/6-2-million-verdict-in-medical-malpractice-case-against-va/ https://www.levinperconti.com/press-releases/6-2-million-ver... predating 2021 aren’t hard to find.
  - corbulo 4y ago
    This took literally 2 seconds to find https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/16/troops-can-finally-file-medical-malpractice-claims-against-military-heres-how.html https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/16/troops-can-fi... VA healthcare is usually once you're not in the service anymore. VA healthcare is also another shining example of how bad gov is at medicine.
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ragebol 4y ago
They don't trust them with a military either, hence the 2nd amendment and there being guns everywhere.

simonh 4y ago

If half your political establishment is absolutely dedicated to making sure public health care fails as much and as hard as possible for ideological reasons, sure, it's going to be hard to get public health care to work. Oh BTW your private medical insurance system also subsidises our health care by over-inflating drug costs, paying an outsized proportion of drug development costs, so cheers. From a citizen of a European country that does pay it's way militarily.

corbulo 4y ago
Totally agree. Thats an issue thats also been occurring in the UK. Remember WannaCry in 2017? Probably caused by Torries defunding it. Lots of downsides to socialized healthcare with incompetent govs.