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Well in my case I specifically mean hyper realistic deep fakes of people created without their consent. Why is it the difficulties of regulating something brou

Well in my case I specifically mean hyper realistic deep fakes of people created without their consent. Why is it the difficulties of regulating something brought up as if it means it prevents any action taken at all. “Id like to ban murder but how do how do you define murder and ban the cases we want (murder) and allow the cases we do (self defense)? And what about countries who decide not to ban murder?”

anon_cow1111 4y ago
>Well in my case I specifically mean hyper realistic deep fakes of people created without their consent. Seems reasonable on its face, but the real issue then becomes damage done-vs-effort needed to prevent it Your example is murder, but the problem is then a scaling issue; not many people really want to commit murder. It takes effort, and the sample size is so small we can evaluate it on a case-by-case basis. But it's trivial to deepfake one face onto another, so it's likely a lot of people will try it for their own amusement. So basically murder to most people is brutal and ugly. A Deepfake is clicking a few buttons; it's abstract and hard to see as a real crime for most people.(...ya know, kinda like how I'll pirate a song but I'm not going to stuff CDs into my pockets at the local retail store) And now we can expand that idea- what counts as a deepfake? The face editing is obvious here but what about training an AI to replicate someone else's voice? What about using the Lamba character.ai site to replicate Sonic or Indiana Jones? That's where it really gets tricky and where I feel politicians will be at a loss to construct any meaningful legislation.
irjustin 4y ago
Super interesting, how would we regulate this space? Would it be similar to how we regulate the weapon systems and things related to it? From my perspective, seems quite difficult
nl 4y ago
Surely you ban fraud.. like the laws that already exist.

anon_cow1111 4y ago

>Well in my case I specifically mean hyper realistic deep fakes of people created without their consent. Seems reasonable on its face, but the real issue then becomes damage done-vs-effort needed to prevent it Your example is murder, but the problem is then a scaling issue; not many people really want to commit murder. It takes effort, and the sample size is so small we can evaluate it on a case-by-case basis. But it's trivial to deepfake one face onto another, so it's likely a lot of people will try it for their own amusement. So basically murder to most people is brutal and ugly. A Deepfake is clicking a few buttons; it's abstract and hard to see as a real crime for most people.(...ya know, kinda like how I'll pirate a song but I'm not going to stuff CDs into my pockets at the local retail store) And now we can expand that idea- what counts as a deepfake? The face editing is obvious here but what about training an AI to replicate someone else's voice? What about using the Lamba character.ai site to replicate Sonic or Indiana Jones? That's where it really gets tricky and where I feel politicians will be at a loss to construct any meaningful legislation.

irjustin 4y ago

Super interesting, how would we regulate this space? Would it be similar to how we regulate the weapon systems and things related to it? From my perspective, seems quite difficult

nl 4y ago

Surely you ban fraud.. like the laws that already exist.